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Atlas covered the story that the mainstream blocked: Obama hate overseas.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/the-more-things-change-the-more-they-stay-the-same.html
Two main reasons why Obama was hired:
1- to relieve the guilt – you know what I’m talking about.
2- the incorrect idea that an Arab/Muslim/Englishman/African would automatically make all the terrorists love us. Yes, put down their pitchforks, go home and make love not war.
Yep, that worked.
Regarding the Fairness Doctrine that people were talking about on the last thread, doesn’t that involve the FCC & broadcast stations? It was dropped by the FCC in the 1980’s. If Barky’s group does try some kind of internet fairness doctrine (like donna brazilla wants), I would think the aclu & groups like Judicial Watch would sue the gov for violating the 1st amendment.
GRRRRRR…………………..Is all I can say without swearing and cursing.
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Last Edited: Tuesday, 13 Jan 2009, 5:22 PM EST
Created: Tuesday, 13 Jan 2009, 5:03 PM EST
Bush Makes More Money Available for Inauguration
WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush has declared an emergency in the District of Columbia that will let the nation’s capital tap deeper into federal coffers for Barack Obama’s inauguration.
Bush said Tuesday that an emergency exists and ordered federal aid to supplement the $15 million in federal funds already appropriated for the event.
White House spokesman Scott Stanzel says District of Columbia Mayor Adrian M. Fenty requested the emergency declaration last week because he decided that the crowds expected for the inauguration of Obama will exceed the city’s ability to protect the public.
If the extra money is needed, it will come from the Federal Emergency and Management Agency budget.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8243591&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
TD –
Get that pic on your blog.
A very, very, very large version.
Luv it.
Don’t know if this is true or not, but investigatingobama has an article that says Barky & Imbiben are planning a private visit to the Supremes!?!
http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/
socalannie
“Barky & Imbiben” are planning a private visit to the Supremes”
We the people: Sold Out!
Somehow I don’t think the ACLU will touch a hair on his little radical head. Protecting the free speech of Nazis is more their speed.
I think it’s been his aim all along to ban all dissent in all media. I would guess that when Donna Brazile condemned “ignorant bloggers,” she was acting as her little precious’ spokesperson. I’ll be amazed if any ant-Obama blogs are around two months from now
texasdarlin
Atlas covered the story that the mainstream blocked: Obama hate overseas.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/the-more-things-change-the-more-they-stay-the-same.html
Not trying to give Drudge any traffic but they have the story on their front page right now.Wish the MSM would air it.
Heard this article mentioned on local radio this morning:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter138.htm
The traitors in congress, indeed.
“If there was any doubt before January 8, 2009 of how the U S Senators and Representatives, and the U.S. Supreme Court view the people of this nation, that doubt is no more; they have made it crystal clear that, in their eyes, the people of this nation are nothing more than chattel to be used, abused and discarded at the pleasure of a centralized, totalitarian global regime.”
Political prostitution at its best.
“It’s like a murder case without a body,” he said. “We will never really know what was destroyed.”
This line jumped out at me while I was reading the article below:
Feb 7, 2003 article Laprensa San Diego
I.N.S. Employees Shred 90,000 Thousand Documents
LOS ANGELES, Jan. 30
http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/archieve/february07-03/ins.htm
Re: Ed Hale’s “we got him” statements regarding INS document CD E509B–
First there is no immigration form that begins with the letters CD. Secondly, immigration forms E-1 through E-3 only exist, and have to do with visas for foreign traders. All the children’s forms are there, but none of them have this number.
So I won’t believe this at all until I see the document, and am tired of people saying ‘we got him’ when we know how deeply serious this is for our country. This is too serious to keep coming up with nothing.
As far as I can tell, Ed Hale is a con artist. No, I take that back. He’s just a liar.
Sorry, folks, but I call it the way I see it.
Agreed TD. And a loudmouth, too.
Sigh. (I’ve been doing that almost daily now as there are disappointments almost daily now). drkate, thanks for your research about the INS numbers.
And Sigh again. Yes, texasdarlin, I guess I must agree with you that Ed Hale is a con artist. Honestly, if I found an important document like that, I would absolutely NOT blast it on the internet, brag about it, and try to gain fame and a following from it. Instead I would try to figure out who I can trust in the government and then send copies out to those people. I would also find a lawyer and ask him the best way to proceed.
And Sigh #3 for the day: I hate to say it, but Dr. Orly Taitz is beginning to look like someone with an endless source of spaghetti that she keeps throwing against the wall hoping something will stick.
I admire her for her tenacity, her intelligence, her patriotism for sure, but I wish she were just a bit more discerning about what she actually publishes.
Thanks for an honest appraisal, td. One of the biggest problems we’re having with our message is the messengers.
One more thing about how stupid it is to show your hand before you actually have something to show to the right people who could actually do something about it.
First Ed Hale brags about this INS paper he has or is looking for …… and now the recent headline that thousands of INS papers have been shredded.
Yeah, thanks a lot Ed.
bemused, this is the beauty of the military Complaint I drafted. Plaintiffs can submit evidence tending to prove, BO posted a document on his web site he titled, “Official Birth Certificate” (an image of the web site). They can submit evidence tending to prove, HI law allows registration of a foreign birth (the legal cite). They can submit evidence tending to prove BO called himself a “natural born citizen” in a letter to AZ S of S – we have the letter – and a “native citizen” on his web site. In short, Plaintiffs can submit evidence to support their FACTS. And these facts are put forward to support Plaintiff’s claims, they have a good faith belief BO is not a NBC. THE MILITARY COMPLAINT DOES NOT ALLEGE BO IS NOT A NBC; IT MERELY ALLEGES, PLAINTIFFS HAVE A GOOD FAITH BELIEF HE IS NOT, BASED ON THESE DEMONSTRABLE “FACTS.” As far as I know, this is the first case that has taken this tack. And this approach is one of the reasons it will be successful as soon as it is filed. Because, with no question as to whether Plaintiffs have standing, what will Defendant BO argue this time to forestall producing evidence he is a NBC, evidence presumably requested by the Court to grant Plaintiffs’ petition for such Declaration? Anything short of documentation will be tantamount to an admission, he is not a NBC. (Of course, since Plaintiffs are not asking the Court to anything else, we would have to see how Congress will act on such a decision. Obviously, they will not do nothing.)
Dr. Kate and TD,
I have similar reservations about Ed Hale. I want to believe that he is sincere, but at best he has over promised and under delivered. If he can produce an official document that shows Barack Hussein Obama II was “born in Kenya”, then he will be a hero. But so far, he has claimed he had such a document (in the form of the Dunham-Obama divorce papers) when the document said no such thing.
I agree that “This is too serious to keep coming up with nothing.”
But the burden of proof is on Obama. He is ineligible until he proves himself eligible.
So far, he has refused to release any document directly from the State of Hawaii. The only document he has released came from DailyKOS (for the digital COLB .jpg file) and from the Obama campaign office in Chicago (for the hardcopy COLB shown to Annenberg Political Fact Check and no one else).
He has relied on misstatements (a.k.a. lies) to provide the ruse that the original birth certificate was released, authenticated, and shows he was born in Hawaii.
My most recent blog post breaks down how our members of Congress were tricked into believing Obama had proven he is qualified. Congress shirked their Constitutional responsibility to check his qualifications themselves.
jbjd–
Yes, I think the “tending to prove” quality is what the non-legal mind looks for, not minced nuanced words. Everyone can get that idea, especially when there’s such a pattern.
I’m just glad Jan Brewer (our SOS, but also next in line to be governor in AZ) had the perspicacity to get O to sign that eligibility statement. She and Janet Napolitano used to be closer, and with some other women seemed like they could get something done. Now not getting along so well. Then Napolitano got on the O wagon, methinks too much too soon. It seemed out of character for N. to me at the time. She is a shrewd negotiator and usually (for a pol) follows a legal path and sticks doggedly to her agenda. So I wonder if something was going on here between her and Brewer, or if Brewer is just a suspicious AZ Republican wanting to cover herself.
The trend that I have noticed with Ed Hale is that when he comes up with some ground breaking evidence or story, it is promptly followed by a request for donations to support the ongoing fight. I’m guessing he is a graduate of the “Ron Popeil School of Marketing”. He serves litte more purpose than to provide the Obamasexuals with a laughable bucket in which to lump all of us concerned and informed citizens. As far as they are concerned, its a one size fits all tin foil hat.
How unfortunate.
jbjd. your suit is superb, in its ’simplicity’, eliminating ‘trip wires’ that have stopped other cases. If I were a military person, I’d sign up on that right now.
When he visited his grandmother in Hawaii, she died soon thereafter.
In this case, the heart of the SCOTUS has died before his visit.
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“Look into the eyes of the Dragon and despair.” (Excalibur)
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbd.htm
Uh, if it’s true that BHO is meeting the Supremes today, then how in the wide world can any of them confer on a case involving him on Friday? Wouldn’t it be a huge ethical mistake for a judge to meet with a person involved in a case currently before his or her court? Any lawyers want to weigh in on this?
Of course if the Usurper Installation ceremonies go forth, I am going to watch the loaded drunken hypnotized commie supporters slip in the ice and freeze in line for the woefully insufficient and surely-disgusting potty. They will be at terror-epicenter, watching a guy who fancies himself MLK/Abe/Jesus (JebabeKing?) all in one package, holding their bladders and they won’t even get an invite to one of the 9 balls.
jbjd,
Are you a lawyer?
Can we step aside and take a look at the crooks that are leading this country?
1. Obama – From dirty Chicago politics, thrown into the limelight by Emil Jones (mr. corrupt in chicago), appointing Rahm Emmanuel (a hardballer himself) and supported by King Corrupt (mayor Daley)
2. Bill Richardson. Well, you know what happened to him
3. Tim Geithner – Uhh, excuse me? You want to be in charge of the finances and money of this country and you can’t file taxes correctly? Sorry Harry Reidd, this is not a hiccup. What kind of example is that setting to appoint this guy?
4. Barney Frank – Reassured the people that there was no crisis involving Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and to “stop worrying”. Now look at where we are.
The list goes on and on….
Lets move away from the citizenship issue and focus on things that are irrefutable, staring us in the face, without a doubt that you don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe…
Our politicians are corrupt, slime and DO NOT represent the people. Where is all the bailout money going?! We can’t know.
What can we do to just clean house?!?
Update to prior post of 10:57 a.m.
These people may not have destroyed any Obama info but it shows how easily it could have been done. These happened to been caught. No jail time though. Lots of people would be willing to commit crime for the promise of lots of money and little or no jail time.
Archive for Tuesday, August 10, 2004
Ex-Clerk Sentenced in INS File Shredding
By David Reyes
August 10, 2004 in print edition B-3
A former INS contract clerk convicted of destroying thousands of immigration documents was sentenced in Santa Ana on Monday to three years’ probation and six months’ house detention.
A federal prosecutor wanted Leonel Salazar, 34, to go to prison. Instead, U.S. District Judge Alicemarie Stotler said that the sentence was within federal guidelines and that a harsher punishment might have destroyed his family.
Authorities said Salazar, a former file room senior supervisor at the Immigration and Naturalization Service office in Laguna Niguel – now known as the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services – shredded the files to reduce a 90,000-document backlog and save his job.
“We don’t know what was destroyed; no one will ever know what was destroyed,” said Assistant U.S. Atty. Gregory Staples.
I looked up the Ed Hale numbers. In varying combinations such as E509B alone and sqsqpq alone and altogether with the TECX added to each. I found these in more than one computer programming language document.
I decided not to waste my time with it. Whoever put this out is wanting to send us off chasing wild geese instead of what we are doing. I am not willing to buy into it.
Yesterday, I saw a UPI article dated election day which says Obama says he was born in Queens Medical Center in Hawaii. This is the first I had heard of Obama himself actually naming a location.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/02/Sen_Barack_Obama_Democrat_of_Illinois/UPI-33901225647000/
Spend your time writing letters to Supreme Court and Congress. They are the only people with the power.
And pray!
Diss, On the records with :”Res” on it, try this and see if you catch any fish. Maybe it was a typo and should have said “Roz” Like in : Rozsika Edle von Wertheimstein.
Wouldn’t that same office in Chicago, where FactCheck supposedly visited the COLB, be a good place for a demonstration? Anybody live there? Is that office still in existence? All it takes is a few brave people willing to stand outside with signs, asking to be allowed to “visit” the real, authentic, paper COLB, too. If FactCheck employees were allowed to visit the document, then why can’t any of We the People?
ITookTheRedPill: Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it stated that his original BC remains unaccessed by ANYONE, including Fukino and Onaka? Didn’t they say that they did NOT view the document but they confirmed that it’s on file there in accordance with Hawaiian law?
We have a president who was the son of a widowed mother and grew up in a small town. He never knew his father. His mother married his father two months after they met. His father was killed in an auto accident before he was born. His father had three wives before marrying the president’s mother. He was a salesman working in Chicago and died traveling from Chicago home. The President’s wife was born was born in Chicago.
I read all of this in chapter one of Bill Clinton’s Autobiography.
This is truly strange.
I don’t think Fukino and Onaka know what the original BC says.
I don’t think they WANT to know what it says.
Remember how their system works: you get back on a COLB only whatever you entered (correctly) into the request screen.
Is it possible that they entered ONLY “Barack H. Obama Jr.” or “Barry Soetoro” or “Barry Dunham” and got back a COLB with just a name on it (no birthplace)?
If anything came back at all, then they COULD state that an original “exists” in their files according to their laws, because the original BCs provide the source data for the database, from which all COLBs are generated.
In this way, they could “verify” than AN original exists, without accessing it to see what it says.
One possible reason for that trip to Hawaii was to oversee the process–maybe to provide the needed search data (the correct NAME) and to make sure that nobody saw any OTHER data (such as true birthplace), all sufficient to allow Fukino and Onaka to make that confusing, misleading, and (sorry, PUMAs) Clintonesque statement.
Convoluted, but you can follow my reasoning.
bemused, do not miss the point. This is a well pleaded Complaint for Declaratory Judgment, which means, it cannot be dismissed on Defendant’s motion for failure to stat a claim. Once it goes to hearing, Plaintiffs need only prove that obeying their oath of office at some point in the near future will subject them to liability based on their good faith belief BO is perhaps not a NBC. What leads to this belief? His words and deeds; and the fact that everyone else in a position to establish this man’s Constitutional eligibility has based a decision he is eligible, on his words or the words of his agents, disguised as being non-partisan arbiters of truth. So, in order to issue a Declaration, the Court will have to examine whatever documents it determines will resolve the question. And if Defendant refuses to hand these over then, the Court can hold him in contempt.
As for government officials in any state requiring an out-of-towner to swear he is eligible…Please try to keep in mind, the DNC is a private club that tries to get club candidates onto state ballots to fill government offices. BO owed no allegiance to the citizens of AZ; your S of S and Governor do. They let him get onto the ballot just by swearing he was eligible. (That’s like in GA; state law requires the Party’s candidate “shall” be eligible for the office sought but there is no corresponding law saying, GA officials “shall” check.)
Miri wrote:
“If FactCheck employees were allowed to visit the document, then why can’t any of We the People?”
Because Obama gave them permission knowing they were on his side. But Miri, what would be the purpose? I wouldn’t go to Chicago in winter if someone paid me to stand out in the cold wind holding a sign for what?
O is not a natural born citizen, with or without a forged COLB (or in Chicago, a COLD
).
Better to spend our time writing MANY BRIEF letters our Senators and Reps, our Secy of State, the Supreme Court justices. Also better to spend our time doing some research. Visit http://www.drorly.blogspot.com to see the latest she and her readers have come up with. Many here at TD and also citizenwells do great research too that we can dig into further.
Something has to happen to stop this treachery. And it will be We The People who will come up with the shocking (to Obots) and undeniable, unmistakable, concrete EVIDENCE.
He cannot expunge everything. There’s plenty out there we just haven’t found yet. Concrete. Cannot be explained away.
Any ideas, anyone?
drkate, thank you; I know. This Complaint is the offshoot of the memo I wrote in November, coming up with the idea, a military Plaintiff would avoid all of the pitfalls of standing in federal court. How did I come up with this? I read all of the cases filed up to that point, along with BO’s Opposition. I figured, he’s paying lawyers big bucks; I can just copy their pleadings. So, for every objection to Berg’s standing, I fashioned a Plaintiff who would satisfy that objection. And when BO argued Declaratory Judgment is not a cause of action all by itself but a procedural remedy in a legal case, I came up with discipline under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. I must admit, I thought this was a stroke of genius!
I posted the memo beginning around November 12. And I began sending it to everyone I could think of, including Berg, and Orly, and Leo, and Edwin Vieira. Then, when no one else came up with the Complaint, I drafted it, putting together the “FACTS” myself, unable to use any other fact pattern from the other cases.
Orly said she would file this but, she has been busy. So, I posted the Complaint on the internet, for anyone to use. And as soon as someone sends proof of filing, including the docket number, I will forward the Legal Memorandum that supports the Complaint.
Now, if we could just get people to read this, so they could see, this military Complaint is unlike all of the others…
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
In a January 20, 2008 New York Times interview, Obama’s sister, Soetoro-Ng said, “I have a bumper sticker on my car that says: ‘1-20-09. End of an Error’”…
Geithner and the $64,000 question: Why in 2006, after the IRS raised the issue, Geithner paid over $17,000 for 2003-2004 work at IMF (as self-employed) but he didn’t pay back 2001-2002 – about $26,000 until November 2008, after he was nominated by Obama for Treasury. Did he forget or he tried to just scam the government? How many of us common folk can “forget” to pay $33,000 in back taxes and the IRS will consider it “an honest mistake.” Yeah, try that one on your next audit.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/158060/Tax-Errors-and-Bailout-Gaffes-Is-Tim-Geithner-the-Right-Man-to-Run-Treasury?
Judy:
That article you mentioned was Obama’s cause for trouble when his sister mentioned Kapiolani and not Queens Medical Center as his birthplace.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081203/NEWS21/812030386/-1/RSS02?source=rss_localnews
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/02/Sen_Barack_Obama_Democrat_of_Illinois/UPI-33901225647000/
BTW: I forgot to mention before, “in an unusual twist of fate” Obama’s mama and Geithner’s papa worked together. He oversaw her work and they met at least once in Jakarta.
http://philanthropy.com/news/government/index.php?id=6453
More proof O-Fraud bought his Columbia diploma:
from theobamafile.com
~SNIP~
” Alma Matters
Barack Obama’s alma maters — from his high school to his graduate school — are planning to claim a small piece of the president-elect at gatherings throughout the inaugural week.
Punahou School alum Steve Case, founder of America Online, will host a brunch for about 250 people, Saint Chu said, many of whom will be making the trek from Hawaii.
Occidental College’s gathering on January 19th will host about 250 people, including alum and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Steve Coll.
“The reaction has been terrific,” said Jim Jacobs, Occidental’s director of alumni relations, saying their 250 reservations are “more than we ever anticipated” for the free celebration.
More than 1,000 Harvard Law School grads have paid $100 per ticket to attend a Sunday, Jan. 18th brunch at the historic Willard Intercontinental Hotel, once a common place to spot President Abraham Lincoln. It will be hosted by the school’s dean and recently-tapped U.S. Solicitor General, Elena Kagan.
Only Columbia is not hosting a big party for their presidential grad.
What’s the story with Columbia? What was Obama up to in the years between Occidental and Business International Corp? He gets back from Pakistan and disappears. Why is it that nobody — absolutely nobody — remembers Obama at Columbia College? Columbia College of Columbia University is a small school. Current enrollment is 4,100.
BMOC Wayne Allyn Root says, “I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever! … Nobody recalls him. I’m not exaggerating, I’m not kidding.”
. . . and remember he offered Barack Obama $1Million to show his transcripts (at the time it was a challenge over who got better grades, but it became clear that Obama HAD no transcripts because in buying a diploma he never attended any classes which is why no one, including the President of the PolySci Alumni, of which Obama says he is one, nobody remembers him at all). This could also be why Obama said that Truman was a great peace negotiator in one of his speeches…you’d think a PolySci grad would know a little bit about Truman, or that there’s not 57 States.
I just read this and there’s a few things that caught my eye. Maybe you could use in your investigations?
NOTE
1. Stanley Ann Dunham worked for the Ford Foundation
2. Stanley Ann Dunham lived and worked in Pakistan in the 1980’s for a microfinance job.
Don’t know if you’ve uncovered this before…sorry if I’m repeating.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2008-04/11/content_6608799.htm
Or “res” may simply be an abbreviated form of the word “resident”.
td, what happened to my last two comments, awaiting moderation?
TD REPLY: I was at work.
Did I say “mentioned” before? Sorry, grammar skills set aside for speed.
It appears the Cabal has covered, and continues to cover, shred, etc., to ensure their boypuppet the position of Usurper in Chief.
I tried to post on Orly’s site but I can’t seem to do so with that new sign-in system they have in place.
My question to all:
http://stevemorse.org/ssn/ssn.html
Entering 042-68-xxxx reveals Obama’s ss# was issued in Connecticut in 1976-1977. Obama was living in Hawaii at that time and would have been around 15 or 16 years old. Why didn’t he simply get his ss# in Hawaii? Could it be because, at the time, he was Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, thus ineligible to get a U.S. ss# — his mother/grandmother must have had a contact in Connecticut who (?illegally?) obtained the ss# for Barack.
blog58: Thank you for posting that newsmax article the other day — good catch.
Judy: Thank you as well, for providing the art. — INS document shredding.
So has chief justice Roberts decided to turn his back on the Constitution as well? I guess the justices must have received a nice palm greasing — MUCH MORE$$$$ than the small raise they were requesting from the crooked congress.
Have you guys seen this article at http://drorly.blogspot.com/
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Geitner-Soetoro-Ford foundation connection
Judy: I’m sure the Cabal has seen to it that Barry will have all necessary documents (made to order!) to prove their boypuppet is indeed who he says he is.
http://savagepolitics.com/barackula#comments
we are so screwed. I thought the world was supposed to love us.
ABC News (radio) reported this morning that the Supreme Court has invited Rush Limbaugh to a private meeting tomorrow, Jan.15th, in Washington D.C.
That is all the information I have available.
As for Obama and Bidden meeting with the Supremes today, it could be a friendly get-together to discuss seating arrangements for Obama’s first State of the Union speech or an opportunity for Obama to try and bribe, plead, cry, arm twist, or threaten SCOTUS – take your pick.
renee
did you do any research on the address of Bho and ayers in NY in 1981 or about when he was at Columbia…..any matches?
Renee: Here’s a tidbit that you will appreciate. Mr. Geithner’s father worked at the Ford Foundation with none other than Stanley Ann D. Obama Soetoro:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_F._Geithner
Did y’all hear that the global warming czar (the socialist) sits on the board of one of those big carbon offset companies? Conflict of interest? NAAAAHH! Only if she were a GWB appointee.
Other Prez to be and VPs have gone to see the SJs.Bill C. and Al Gore went.
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Geitner-Soetoro-Ford foundation connection
Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:22 PM
“…Timothy Geithner’s father, Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation’s microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by Ann Dunham-Soetoro, mother of President-elect Barack Obama, and they met in person at least once.”
jpjd – and others – and in re some of Orly’s Lawsuits
Yes I think some of these are “better” and may have legs. But we are all frustrated about the timing. It is imperative that the Usurper not take office. As far as laws and such, these can be undone when he is deposed. But there is MUCH MISCHIEF that an ill-intentioned Usurper can accomplish in a few hours or a few days.
God help us.
Sorry. I forgot to say that the “Geitner-Soetoro-Ford foundation connection” posted in my last comment
was obtained at
http://drorly.blogspot.com/
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I heard, on the Mark Levin show, that O had dinner last night with a bunch of the “Conservative/Republican” News/Radio Broadcasters — they say O was charming. So they all are part of the Cabal.
Soon enough we’ll have the Obot SS in full force
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I’m listening to Michael Savage on the radio. He thinks we should all send emails to our congressman
“Say NO to TARP, or you will be voted out of office”
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My daydream of the Supremes-Soetoro/Obiben meeting, of course knowing they can’t talk about the cases:
**Nicey nicey blah blah blah… clink!
**Roberts: we’d just like to go over a few things for the inaugural ceremony.
**barky obiben nodd. Biden leaks into his depends.
**Roberts: Mr. Biden, we are going to swear you in as Acting President on January 20th because of some constitutional issues we need to look at before we can have Mr. Obama as presid—
**barky: but, but, but, ahh, but, but, but…
**Roberts: You know we can’t speak about on going cases, Mr. Soet…Obama.
*Biden: does anyone have a shot of whiskey?
**Roberts: Acting President Biden, you will have to wait until you are safely off the inaugural platform and sitting down.
**barky: ahhh,,,,ummmm,, but,,,,,whaaaaa….don’t send me home to my wife with this, Roberts! Oops, I mean Mr Chief Justice….she’ll have my balls on a platter
**Thomas and Ginsberg in unison: what balls?
**Roberts: Mr. Obama, we will see you sometime after the 23rd of this month. Acting PResident Biden, I will see you Tuesday morning.
The next day, Obama announces he is stepping down for personal health reasons, and once again introduces the next president of the US–Joe Imbibin!
And the world resounds in deep, belly-full laughter and a sigh of relief as we get ready to bring about real humanity…..
Judy, interesting. I think it would be good to take a look into this guy’s bank account and see about any large deposits lately. Nothing is coincidental anymore. LA area would be huge repository of records, especially from HI as it was just forming as a state in 1959.
No coincidences…just dots waiting to be connected with others as we untangle what happened.
To Judy, Jan. 14, 2009 , 3:18 p.m.:
Quoting part of Judy message:
Judy, Jan.14,2009, 3:18 p.m.
Yesterday, I saw a UPI article dated election day which says Obama says he was born in Queens Medical Center in Hawaii. This is the first I had heard of Obama himself actually naming a location.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/02/Sen_Barack_Obama_Democrat_of_Illinois/UPI-33901225647000/
Spend your time writing letters to Supreme Court and Congress. They are the only people with the power.
And pray!
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This is one of the serious problems with Obama:
He can’t make up his mind as to which Hawaii hospital he was born in.
For instance, your UPI story says one hospital, while a Nov. 2008 story in the Hawaii newspaper Honolulu Advertiser says it was a different hospital.
Check this story out that I found online, part of which I quote below:
HonoluluAdvertiser.com Sunday Nov.9, 2008
by Will Hoover
“Born Aug. 4, 1961
While most Obama residences can be traced, the hospital where he was born is difficult to document. The desire of historians to pinpoint where Obama’s life began has crashed head-on with the modern American propensity toward confidentiality. The federal Health Information Privacy Act of 1999 — a law passed to protect medical records from public scrutiny — prevents hospitals from confirming births, administrators contend.
“We don’t have plans to do anything,” said Kapiolani Medical Center spokeswoman, Claire Tong, when asked how the center plans to commemorate the soon-to-be 44th U.S. president, who, according to Obama’s family and other sources, was born at that hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.
“We can’t confirm or deny it — even though all the information out there says he was born at Kapiolani Hospital. And that’s because of the HIPA law.”
Tong acknowledged that the center has received daily inquiries from news agencies far and wide asking for confirmation of Obama’s birthplace. Much as she wishes she could do it, Tong said it’s not possible.”
1. NOTE: In my opinion, Kapiolani seems to misunderstand the HIPAA priviacy rules.
2. As I understand HIPAA privacy hospital rules, if Obama tells his birth hospital that it can tell the world that he was born there, the birth hospital can legally do so.
3. Another note referring to HIPAA hospital privacy rules: There is the problem that Obama’s mother is now dead.
4. Obama’s mother is dead: Also, as I understand HIPAA privacy rules, now that Stanley Ann Dunham/Obama is dead, the Hawaii hospital where she supposedly gave birth can legally verify if she was or was not a patient there on Aug. 4, 1961.
5. That is, as I understand HIPAA, it is one thing to protect the hospital records of a patient who has died, but it is another thing to simply for a hospital to say whether or not a dead person was a patient sometime in the past.
6. NOTE: Maybe a lawyer who visits this blog can tell us if the hospital where Obama’s mother supposedly gave birth to Obama on Aug. 4, 1961, can legally tell us if Obama’s mother was or was not a patient there now that Obama’s mother is dead.
7. So, Obama, enquiring minds want to know: Which of two Hawaii hospitals is your birth hospital: Queens or that other one, Kapiolani?
8. As I far as I know, dear Obama, a person cannot be born in two different hospitals at the same time.
Sadly, Obama ain’t talking.
To Miri:
We The People do not matter. This has been proven by the Circuit Court judges, the Secys of State, the Congress, the Senate, and SCOTUS.
Our only salvation is to pray to our Maker that something, or someone, comes forth to make it impossible for the authoritys to shunt aside.
Don’t expect anything from SCOTUS on Friday. This little get acquainted visit today tells us to stuff it.
td, no, I am sorry, I was not rushing you, it’s just that I could no longer see my comments in moderation and, I wondered what had happened to them.
Judy, On your 3;30 post above. I am laughing ! With you, not at you. Strange is an understatement ! You wont believe it once you catch the threads and major connections in the geneology trails. Same names same places, same companies same connections, same money. Over and over. Can you look up the place Clinton, and the names Clinton, and William as well as Jefferson in American history- combinations. Interesting readiing. Then move over across the pond and Australia where we also have tons of roots it seems. Loads of connections, now too. Amazing. I thought our ideas were unique here. Burst to my bubble. Our Cities, Ports, rivers, etc.. all copies, of our origins before the USA, and their family names from Canada, England, Australia, etc.. I guess I knew that, but it really hit me with all the research. Alot is scrubbed. Especially the pictures.
Drkate, LMAO ! (for 1o min) Biden leaks Depends. I cannot type- I am roaring !!!!!
Janet,
And Miri…wouldn’t suggest it tonight or for the next few days. Below 0 temps tonight with -40 possible wind chill.
And trust me we are having one of the worst winters i can ever remember in the Chicago area this year.
I agree that Miri is correct that protesting here at better times of the year with the DNC being in Chicago and Obama’s headquarters being here but trust me you don’t want to be in Chicago now.
I don’t hardly remember what it’s like to drive to work on dry roadways at this point.
Here’s the Supreme Court-Obama/Biden meeting press release. There are precedents for these meetings, in 1980, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush had such a meeting and in 1992, Bill Clinton and Al Gore met with the Supreme Court in the days before their inauguration:
“With a fireplace warming the Supreme Courts West Conference Room, President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden had a conversation with most of the members of the Supreme Court on Wednesday afternoon. The two new leaders of the Executive Branch, eight members of the Court, and three aides talked as they sat at the fireplace for about 40 minutes, according to accounts relayed to the Courts public information officer, Kathleen L. Arberg.
Before sitting down, the two newly elected officials signed the Courts guest book as they stood in front of a portrait of Chief Justice William Howard Taft. Light refreshments were served. Afterward, Obama and Biden were escorted on a tour of the Courtroom and the Justices private Conference Room. Ms. Arberg had no word on what was discussed during the encounter.
They left by way of an internal stairway, to cheers of Court employees, and departed through a basement garage.
The only member of the Court not on hand was Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr. There was no immediate explanation for his absence from an event that Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., had said was hoped to be part of a continuing ‘congenial tradition.’ ”
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/a-conversation-at-the-fireplace/
In Mourning at 2:57 pm said:
Lets move away from the citizenship issue and focus on things that are irrefutable, staring us in the face, without a doubt that you don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe…
Our politicians are corrupt, slime and DO NOT represent the people. Where is all the bailout money going?! We can’t know.
What can we do to just clean house?!?
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I’m with you. We have got to come up with a way to get rid of them all and start over from scratch!
I’ve been thinking, how 0bama and his ilk used the “disenfranchised” via ACORN, white guilt, etc. to further his cause to make America into a communist shit-hole and a 3rd world ghetto in the North American Union. They’ve been planting RINOs and DINOs in every station of government prepping the battle space as it were, for years and years. Then when we needed them to behave as public servants they gave us the proverbial finger.
Females, females are by far, the largest group of “victims” on the planet. No racial issue can even remotely scratch the surface of the abuse, murder, rape, mutilation, discrimination, oppression that is routinely faced by women in every country on the planet.
I notice many of us who see the light here, are females. I notice none of us are intimidated by other powerful women ( I do not include Michelle Obama because she’s a crook, a fraud, lost her law license, and is a tagalong). I think a lot of the disdain for Hillary and Palin was from envy, a kind of envy stemming from the fact that they have their shit together and most of the women who hate them just do not. It was striking the woman-on-woman rage we saw from this campaign, and how the misogynists played that up to their own benefit (for example young women wearing cunt t-shirts, oblivious to their own body parts).
I saw an article yesterday of a 22 year old woman who witnessed how her older sister prostituted herself for 3 weeks and earned enough money to put herself through college, so she decided to auction off her virginity. I think the highest bid so far was $3.7 Million. She she really was, sitting on a gold mine. “We” all are. Mostly. “We” are the real prize, we are what Islamofascism is mainly about: Gender Apartheid and Gender Totalitarianism.
Now I’m not saying we should auction our sexuality, but what I am saying is that we haven’t really USED it for the purposes which we could use it for. Not only to end oppression of females, which is rampant, but use our gender the way American blacks have been used to parlay white guilt to the end of an America-destroying illegal usurper, only use it for the good.
Males have done us wrong, in this election, in world history. The feminists of old did not do what was within their reach, they branched into craziness when as a majority of the population females could have united on a common front. We bring up the children, we therefore have the greatest demands for stability and prosperity, we loathe war and violence but will defend our own with spitfire determination. It’s time to step up the game from whining about victimization to pointing the finger at “male guilt” and backing it up with a vote backed by sheer numbers, or even closing up the gold mine. Blacks may have been 12% of the US population, 6.1% of those were females. We have far more in common with other females of any race.
I’m just thinking…revolution may come from the level of Hamburger Helper and not tonight dear more than we think. Women have to be empowered that they possess a commodity in their minds and bodies which they should never give away and should always fight to ensure it is respected. I think this is why the media cheapens our sexuality. I’m just thinking…
It’s time for real centrist democrats and conservatives to take back government, even if we have to do what they did to us, pretend to by 0bama sycophants to get our foots in the doors.
Pictures of Obama and Biden with the the Supreme Court (They all look extremely cozy and friendly to me):
http://community.livejournal.com/obama_daily/172181.html
This is what transpired from Obama’s Supreme Court visit ias related by the Court spokeswoman Kathy Arberg:
- “staffers were kept well away”… but when they “glimpsed Obama on his way out, a loud cheer went up in a building that exudes decorum. ”
- “Justice Samuel Alito was the only justice absent, although Alito was on the bench for two hours of argument Wednesday morning…”
- “Obama and Biden entered the building through the garage, a decision made for security reasons.”
- “…she did not know why Alito wasn’t there.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8257316
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_COURT?SITE=WAYAK&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-01-14-18-13-48
Note: Wondering why they’re so intent in emphasizing that “Reporters and photographers were not allowed in and this account comes wholly from Arberg?”
jbjd..
I live near a naval station…
My son has friends in the military ..and in fact one is due to leave again for 6 months, his last sea duty…I could get him to complain but he hasnt got the money for an attourney…any ideas…Im sure there are several I could get…Let me know..
Aone, On your question above. No, but I found something interesting. 2 brothers -names Soloman again, had a record label during the disco days in NY. Vanguard Records. Borrowed from dad to start up. Later started Alisha label. Isn’t Alisha Keys to sing at the big party ? The company started by Maynard and Seymour. I wondered because of the NY thing , if Barry was doing the disco thing there then. He had the disco photo shoot thingie you know, but I never looked further. Also see Solomon River-Ft Levinworth, Ks. area. One Soloman was named Levinworth. Humm… isn’t that where Stanley Ann born ?. Same names, over and over…….
Miri, I love you ! But this info is bothering me. I was not going to mention as to not sound like a nut ,but saw an article last week with a picture for proof. Free masons at a County Fair had a booth set up offering free RFID chip implants to kids. Said it is for kidnapping, etc.. Pic is on line. Then I look up this Geithers guy for Obama’s Treasury. He is for Global banking and a cash free world ? See web articles. People are freaking that the chips may be the new way to buy everything ? You must be kidding ! Look up this guy on wiki ! Fed Open Market committee, etc..Group of Thirty ? Interest; Foreign Exchange Currency, Intl Capital Markets, Intl Fin. Institutions, Central Banks, etc.. Then daddy, and Stanley Ann job, FORD, etc.. This guy has to be a Rothschild. He fits my notes too well, and what is this microchip crap ? Like the Bible ? Cannot get food without a number ? Oh come on, we could not be that stupid to get stuff implanted could we ? Like cows for tracking ? This guy is controlling the dough here and owes taxes and has an illegal housekeeper ? You are kidding. And no one knows why our checkbook is screwed. I have a clue…..Also I think Stanley Ann was selling Singer sewing machines to the natives. Anyone got time to dig on Singer family roots ?
forget to pay your taxes this year! No penalities! rotfl
We have a friend here in Maine, I believe he supported Obama (nobody’s perfect). He’s a thinking man, generally keeps himself well-informed, level-headed, also ham radio operator. He’s a gun enthusiast, as is my husband, and they target-shoot together. He seems to believe that riots or revolution is coming…. I haven’t talked to our friend about this, but that’s my husband’s perspective – and HE doesn’t think it will come to revolt.
I hope this country can get back on track without riots and revolt, but it’s getting hard to stay optimistic. There is so much apathy, and still so many who are infatuated with Obama, I wonder if there are even enough people to really turn the country around? I hope and pray the Supreme Court will do their job, since Congress has already folded.
I just looked at those pictures of 0bama at SCOTUS and well, to me they seem to be going through the motions of pleasantries. Biden is looking sideways at his master for some approval. Barry’s got his best “aint I a cutup” fake chuckle going. Ruth is looking down. Thomas is looking like he’d really like to party but hey this guy called him stupid not that long ago. The thing is, they’re going to go back and say, “nice guy, but…” Then they might get not a little mad that this guy is so full of shit and just lied (using his NPD audacity yet again) to the Supreme Court’s faces–all of them (’cept Alito–was he making a statement?). Just my intuition.
John Mirse,
You misunderstand the HIPAA regulations, at least as far as they apply to living people. I do not know whether the rules are different for someone who is deceased. However, as far as living people are concerned, a hospital or other healthcare provider cannot release any records without a written, signed authorization from the patient that specifies who the records will be released to, except as required by law (eg, during a medical emergency).
According to Dick Morris, not paying your taxes is just a civil offense. Geitner did not REPORT his income and Morris said that is a CRIMINAL offense. I emailed AZ Senator Jon Kyl about it today and got an IMMEDIATE phone call from his office in Washington DC. His rep said that Kyl has urged Congress not to “rush” his confirmation through, but to have a hearing on it. His rep said he didn’t know how Kyl was going to vote on this nominee. I also talked to him about BO’s eligibility and, of course he said that the Supreme Court has dismissed all of the cases so far. I told him that we all know that BO is hiding something and we will find out what it is eventually.
The rep for Kyl also told me that the weather in DC on inauguration day is a 33% chance of snow! I also complained about the emergency funds to pay for this shindig.
He also encouraged me to continue sending emails to Senator Kyl so I guess they do read them. So slam all your congressmen with emails! And letter, too. We will keep them so busy that they won’t have time to do their actual jobs. Maybe that’s a good thing?
BTW, there is a lawyer on the Ed Hale port of entry documentation–Stephen Pidgeon, who is the attorney who filed for the plaintiffs for the State of Washington lawsuit. It was dismissed, of course, but Pidgeon said that just opens more doors for the progressing lawsuit.
RE: The ABC News Radio report that Rush was asked to a private meeting by SCOTUS…
…Rush is in D.C. and attended the Medal of Freedom Ceremony at the White House on Tues., Jan 13 so this very well could be an accurate report. Stating it is a “private” meeting makes it seem offical…like they will be discussing a VERY important issue (maybe about how he can help calm the rioting via radio broadcast when The Messiah is found to be ineligible for POTUS).
OR
Maybe Rush got the private invite to meet and tour with the SC Justices from his ‘ol pal Clarence. FYI: Justice Thomas officiated at the 1994 marriage of Rush Limbaugh and his third wife, Marta, which took place at Thomas’s home in Virginia.
Ilblue -
No — I’ve already taken the dog out this morning in the -10 cold, crystal clear night. There was NO breeze, just cold!
It’s colder in Chicago when the Cubs are in the playoffs, and they lose!
Nothing can warm you up after that — and that cold lasts until late March or early April!
The only comfort out of all is that Obama is a White Sox fan, and where I grew up — if the Cubs won, and the Sox lost, it was like winning a double-header.
Has anyone noticed small branch banks being built in your neighborhood the last few years. There are two new ones withing walking distance of my house just in the last year and more just a little farther away. My neighbor and I were talking the other day about how there are never any customers and lots of folks wondered why they were being built. There doesn’t seem to be a need for them.
Yesterday, while searching for something else, I found an article online that is interesting. When I tried to go back and search to find the article again, I found that this press relief is linked in with others and eventually I ended up at the TARP site. I did finally find the site again. Here it is.
http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/hp829.htm
Wow – see this: http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/960514
Called “A Senator’s Dream,” it’s a fantasy on what the founding fathers would say if they knew what we have done with the founders’ toil and sacrifice.
snip:
A Senator’s Dream
Dear Senator,
Once, many years ago when a young country had a dream, a man said, “Gentlemen, if we do not hang together, we will most assuredly hang separately.” Mr. Franklin knew of what he spoke, still he and other men and women of vision and integrity went forward at the risk of their own lives to forge a new nation based on personal liberty and limited government.
Something has gone wrong. The document these men constructed in order to form a more perfect union was bought with blood, sweat and tears and now it has been shredded by greed, power hunger and dishonesty.
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This was a year before the crash. Why did Congress ignore it?
Was Bush forced to go along with the bailout when his words at this press gathering clearly showed he was in opposition to it. It sounds like there was a discussion going on behind the scene.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070831-5.html
Hillary, at her confirmation hearing for Secretary of State, made a “freudian slip.” She called Kerry, “President,” and when corrected, said it was a “freudian slip.” Kerry said that he guessed they were both subject to that. She answered, “especially on this subject.”
The question, however, is, during the interview, was she speaking for herself or for Obama? The reason I ask is, she said all means would be used to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons and that in regards to taking action against Iran, all options were open. Nothing had been taken off the table. (See NY Observer online.)
http://www.observer.com/2009/politics/clinton-iran-options
In so speaking, she sounded more like a President than Secretary of State. (Previously, during the campaign, she had said that if Iran were to go on the war path and use nukes, she would “obliterate them.”)
One wonders if it was more than a freudian slip? Is she still thinking “President” because she knows something we don’t?
For Miri and Judy re: the Chi-Ca-Go connection, the lyrics to Razzle Dazzle from the musical….Chicago!
BILLY(Spoken)
Roxie, you got nothing to worry about.
It’s all a circus, kid. A three ring circus.
These trials- the wholeworld- all show business.
But kid, you’re working with a star, the biggest!
(Singing)
Give ‘em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle Dazzle ‘em
Give ‘em an act with lots of flash in it
And the reaction will be passionate
Give ‘em the old hocus pocus
Bead and feather ‘em
How can they see with sequins in their eyes?
What if your hinges all are rusting?
What if, in fact, you’re just disgusting?
Razzle dazzle ‘em
And they’ll never catch wise!
Give ‘em the old Razzle Dazzle
BILLY AND COMPANY
Razzle dazzle ‘em
Give ‘em a show that’s so splendiferous
BILLY
Row after row will crow vociferous
BILLY AND COMPANY
Give ‘em the old flim flam flummox
Fool and fracture ‘em
BILLY
How can they hear the truth above the roar?
BILLY AND COMPANY
Throw ‘em a fake and a finagle
They’ll never know you’re just a bagel,
BILLY
Razzle dazzle ‘em
And they’ll beg you for more!
BILLY AND COMPANY
Give ‘em the old double whammy
Daze and dizzy ‘em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-ler
Give ‘em the old three ring circus
Stun and stagger ‘em
When you’re in trouble, go into your dance
Though you are stiffer than a girder
They’ll let you get away with murder
Razzle dazzle ‘em
And you’ve got a romance
COMPANY(The same time as BILLY’s)
Give ‘em the old
Razzle Dazzle
BILLY
Give ‘em the old Razzle Dazzle
Razzle dazzle ‘em
Show ‘em the first rate sorceror you are
Long as you keep ‘em way off balance
How can they spot you’ve got no talent
Razzle Dazzle ‘em
BILLY AND COMPANY
Razzle Dazzle ‘em
Razzle Dazzle ‘em
And they’ll make you a star!
I keep thinking that “res” is an abbreviation for “residence,” i.e. Dunham residence. Is this format followed for other addresses in that directory?
Miri @343pm said:
Is it possible that they entered ONLY “Barack H. Obama Jr.” or “Barry Soetoro” or “Barry Dunham” and got back a COLB with just a name on it (no birthplace)?
Just heard a strange story from a friend trying to access her FIL’s (father in law) – BC – as he was unable to speak after a stroke – w/ no SS card, birth records anywhere in the house…she had to get a SS # to apply for SS/medicare/medicaid, etc – which required the original BC before they would give her any info at the SS office.
Long story short – (I promise) – turns out — like a similiar story on a post above – his mother’s name was not what shows on her BC – and his BC onlyl had – “Baby Smith”… – with no father in lieu of his name. So evidently, at least in the state of TN, that was considered acceptable.
So – in case this is impt – wanted to pass it on – to help the cause – in the ongoing digging efforts.
Renee
I caught a few minutes of Hillary the other day at the hearings, just as she started saying that she “almost had an opportunity to meet Ann Dunham at a Women’s Covention
in the early 1990’s on MICROFINANCING”! But, Ann got sick and didn’t attend. She
then said she wanted to continue the work done by Ann!
I wonderred at the time who she was really speaking to….it seemed she was not speaking to the general public, but wanted to catch the ears of a few.
Later I heard that she also spoke of a change in policy on the support of Israel but I didn’t catch that part of the hearing.
Apparantly BO wants to meet with Hamas and Hezbolah after he closes Gitmo and sends everyone home.
Round and round we go.
Maybe alito has been chosen to swear him in, an associate justice, not the chief justice, and he was in the bathroom throwing up as he realizes he could be impeached for swearing in a usurper?
According to HIPAA rules, if someone was simply in the hospital, it’s considered ‘directory’ type information and it CAN be released. Second, Obama’s birth was listed in the Honolulu papers, so there’s not a privacy violation. All that a hospital would have to do is confirm this public information and the only way they would get in trouble for that is if Obama sued. There’s no way he would sue them (or the DOH, for that matter) for confirming his birth at a hospital in Hawaii. No records have to be released.
Just my hit, but that looks like the last Supreme Court-Presidential picture we will ever see, until our republic and been restored, sometime in the next ten years.
Dear TD,
Perhaps the issues raised on your site, have not necessarily outcomed as it could; however, the silver lining is that millions of Americans know now that our nation is no longer “free” so to speak. THe election of Obama came about because of poor vetting by the press. It was fixed. So what is happening now?
THE MSM is dying because of it. People are waking up. More and more newspapers are going out of business. The proof of the demise of the MSM is on the front page of Drudge. What do we do now? We Vote Out Congress. People ARE Waking Up, thanks to you and others who have fought for and demanded to know the truth about candidates.
I see 2010 as the next milestone for all people who are tired of government as usual. Change Congress.
He was the candidate of Change.
We are the people of Change…
Just thought I would share something I happened to come across, even though it may be nothing.
I read on another forum someone mentioning “something big” coming down the pike from the SCOTUS around Jan. 20 and then later in February. I gleaned enough info that I was able to find out what case they were talking about, and as it happens, its on a side topic that some have theorized may have some significance with the BC issue.
Remember the “Apology Resolution” by Clinton back in 1993 where the U.S. apologized for its role in overthrowing the kingdom of Hawaii? Well there is a case regarding that, and whether 1.2 million acres of land should be set aside for reparations to native Hawaiians. (The overthrow occurred on Jan. 17th 1893, – the 116th anniversary is two days away)…The Hawaii Supreme court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs (stating that Hawaii must make reparations to the natives) and it is now at the feet of SCOTUS, with amicus briefs filed on by every state in the nation.
I just thought I’d mention this, fwiw. Here’s a link to the docket sheet: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/07-1372.htm (It’s set for oral arguments on Feb. 25th).
…And here’s a link with all the briefs, etc. : http://www.scotuswiki.com/index.php?title=Hawaii%2C_et_al._v._Office_of_Hawaiian_Affairs%2C_et_al.#Opinion_Analysis
Also– on another topic…
IF BHO got his ss in Conn., it is likely that he applied for it when he came of working age (15-18 yrs. old), as that was the norm back then. No one can remember him at Columbia— is it possible to see if maybe he actually attended a college in Conn. and they fabricated Columbia? I saw where there is a city of Columbia in Connecticut….
Ksdb
“Directory information” refers to patients who are currently in the hospital, and have been given the opportunity to opt out of being listed. It does not refer to a patient from 50 years ago. And a lawsuit from the patient is NOT the only way the hospital could get in trouble if HIPAA was violated. All hospitals are accredited every 7 or so years by JCHAO, a federal commission. Enough violations and the hospital’s accreditation would be revoked.
on January 14, 2009 at 3:32 pm Miri
I remember, but don’t have a link to, someone saying the original BC had not been accessed by Obama.
But Fukino appeared to say that she and Onaka had examined the original BC:
So, did they see the BC itself?
Or, did they merely see something that
indicates that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record?
Nuance, nuance, nuance.
to Dean M @ 919am – she called him “President”?…IMO – how smug – get them both a saucer of milk…
Dr Kate said – “Alito throwing up” – or laying curled up in a little ball crying hysterically…..LOL
AOne said – in your reply to Renee….
“Later I heard that she also spoke of a change in policy on the support of Israel but I didn’t catch that part of the hearing.”
I’m going to see if I can find more ….. as this would be very impt indeed….. – if we don’t support Israel as a country, we are toast, guess I should say IMHO,,, but maybe not so much…
Yesterday January 14,2008 at 2:40 PM Arizona time I was watching Wolf Biltzer reporting the news on CNN when he stated that a Historic Event was taking place that a President Elect for the first time was meeting with the Supreme Court of the United States!
It is my belief that Chief Justice Roberts who has accepted 2 lawsuits regarding the eligibility of Obama to run for POTUS requested Obama to come to the Court and prove or to disclose his true citizenship status and Birth Certificate information to be submitted to the Court immediately.
The Court must rule based on the Constitution or find some way of ruling that he is eligible and put the entire Court at the disposal of the American people who along with the Constitution stand above the Congress,Senate and the Supreme Court in any final decision in this matter! Lets hope that the Court realizes that by taking their oath of office they have no other choice,but to demand that Obama prove that he is a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” and report the results to the nation.
Here is the link to transcript on Clinton’s remarks re: “if she is confirmed as S of S:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99290981&ft=1&f=1003
Here are specific remarks made re: Israel -
“As intractable as the Middle East’s problems may seem — and many presidents, including my husband, have spent years trying to help work out a resolution – we cannot give up on peace. The president-elect and I understand and are deeply sympathetic to Israel’s desire to defend itself under the current conditions, and to be free of shelling by Hamas rockets.
However, we have also been reminded of the tragic humanitarian costs of conflict in the Middle East, and pained by the suffering of Palestinian and Israeli civilians. This must only increase our determination to seek a just and lasting peace agreement that brings real security to Israel; normal and positive relations with its neighbors; and independence, economic progress, and security to the Palestinians in their own state.
We will exert every effort to support the work of Israelis and Palestinians who seek that result. It is critical not only to the parties involved but to our profound interests in undermining the forces of alienation and violent extremism across our world.”
….”deeply sympathetic”….not sure what that means, IMHO, it’s not the same as – “will support Israel’s right to defend herself”….mmmm
Greg,
A lot of hospitals, in the past, have made that directory information available to the public, such as to local newspapers and radio stations. In such a case, assuming that Stanley Ann Dunham’s admission had been publicized, then confirming that information doesn’t violate her privacy. We know Obama was born and we assume it was in a hospital based on the comments of Obama’s sister or other newspaper sources. Should a hospital confirm that information, there is no privacy being violated. No record has to be released to confirm that information. Also, if the patient was NOT at a hospital, there is no privacy violated at all. And the only way there would be a violation is if it were reported as a complaint. Why would such a simple, public piece of information be considered a violation??
ILBlue said –
And trust me we are having one of the worst winters i can ever remember in the Chicago area this year.
…… more evidence of global warming? LOL….
More opinions on why Berg NOW has standing, and why the other petitions were not granted (and not completely released but rather still pending)
“My eighty-nine year old father practiced law for over 50 years. He was top in his class and clerked for the federal court. When the Gore case went to the SCOTUS he wrote the chapter, paragraph etc. that the court would decide the case on a piece of paper. He also wrote the vote tally and which justices would vote which way…..He gave the paper to a young judge in town and told him to open it when the decision was published……..He was 100% correct. He thinks any one who thinks that the SCOTUS is going to ignore or dismiss this case is delusional. He is much more qualified to judge the case then you are.
The Supreme Court had to wait until now for Berg to have standing. There is no precedence for this case. It is a historical decision and they will do everything they can to get it right. The constitution does not establish who vets the candidate. Part of their decision will determine who, or what will be held responsible in the future, if not now. It could destroy the Democratic Party if they are proved to be part of an intentional fraud. If Obama does not provide the documentation they request, he will be held in contempt, and they WILL obtain it.
[snip]
Both Donofrio’s and Wrotnowski’s cases said the burden lays with the Secretary of State (SoS) not doing their job. There is no law that states that it is their job. So, the SoS would win the case. In Conference, they probably talked about who was responsible to vet the candidate. If it wasn’t the SoS of each state, they did not want to waste valuable court time and not hold Obama accountable. The burden to each SoS to vet each candidate for each office would be prohibitive in both time and expense. You will notice that neither cases were completely released but pending. They can be revisited and opinions may be written on them when a final release is given. Berg’s case, on the other hand, places the burden on the candidate, the party, and the FEC. Berg, however, did not have standing until Congress certified the electoral votes to present his case. He now has standing, as do Keyes and the other California cases.
Writer unknown . . .”
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
Berg’s case is still active in the 3rd dist court of appeals, which is why SCOTUS denied it this last friday….the lower court hasn’t made their decision yet.
Yankeegirl
I keep thinking that “res” is an abbreviation for “residence,” i.e. Dunham residence. Is this format followed for other addresses in that directory?
nonono…
Res Dunham – alias name is Madilyn Dunham. (not the other way around). Madilyn Dunham as in – Obama’s grandmother.
Barackula
http://savagepolitics.com/barackula
THAT’s a good one.
Barackula
First Amendment:
Thanks for Razzle Dazzle. I enjoyed that. That songwriter sure knew what he was talking about.
Entry from the online dictionary:
Date:
1889
1 : a state of confusion or hilarity 2 : a complex maneuver (as in sports) designed to confuse an opponent 3 : a confusing or colorful often gaudy action or display
Janet: You’re probably right, but I thought a little street theater would at least get some attention for the issue.
I know that his British citizenship at birth makes him questionable as a NBC. It’s simply that so many senators and representatives have responded with that same line of bull about how he already released his BC to the media. Since he hasn’t, then a little demonstration outside his office couldn’t hurt, if somebody could get the Chicago press to cover it.
One purpose would be to irritate him as much as he’s irritated us over the last many months. (He, of the most transparent administration in history. Right.)
I didn’t expect anybody to travel to Chicago. That’s why I asked if anyone reading this blog happens to live there.
Re: microchips & HIPAA
FDA approved microchips for human implantation in 2005.
Bush signed into law a bill requiring all states to build a database of blood samples from newborns to “track” genetic problems. The Dept. Of Homeland Security is granted access to the database, by law. No HIPAA conflict there, right?
blog58: Why didn’t Geithner pay all the back taxes that he KNEW that he owed? Because the IRS didn’t know that he owed them.
They audited only three years. He paid the back taxes for the years that they called him on (and they waived the penalties. How nice for him.) But he owed for prior years, that they didn’t audit.
He had to know at that point that he owed more money. Besides which, his employee notified him on a quarterly basis, throughout his years of employment, that he was responsible for paying those taxes.
Imho, he decided to “scam” the government, until he was nominated for this job, at which time he decided to finally pay up.
He knew that the Dems and the OMSM would repeat any of several memes: It’s a “hiccough” (Reid). It’s an “embarrassment” (Obama). It was “sloppy” on his part (from a story in the NY Times).
The last excuse is my personal favorite, because I predicted that one, having remembered how they explained away Berger’s theft and destruction of documents from the National Archives as “sloppiness.”
Remember how the OMSM excoriated Joe the Plumber because he owed $1000 in taxes (something like that amount), which he overlooked because of some technicality? Did they make him pay a penalty? Probably.
As for the illegal alien housekeeper, they finally mentioned her in our newspaper, today; but they explained that away by saying in effect that he’s not very detail oriented–he didn’t keep a copy of her “papers” to refer to, so he didn’t know when her papers expired. Plausible.
But do we or do we not want a detail-oriented person in charge of OUR money?
Here’s the deal folks. Only Republicans are raked over the coals by the media (see Palin, Sarah) and only Republicans are held accountable by BOTH parties. Seldom do Democrats hold other Democrats to account. If that’s not true, then tell me why Frank and Conyers, among others, are still “serving?”
make that “his employeR” notified him. Sorry.
Looking at Ann Dunham’s life story, I found very interesting that Obama’s propaganda seemed to have portrayed him as if he had been living on food stamps during his infancy. True, mama was a sort of “flower girl”, a sign of the times I suppose, and papa wasn’t pitching, but she held very good positions while overseas and the Obama divorce papers talk about housekeepers and such. Just look at her positions: Ford Foundation, United States Agency for International Development (USAID), consultant in Pakistan for the Asian Development Bank (ADB), Rayat Bank (Indonesia’s oldest bank), Women’s World Banking in NY.
http://www.microcapital.org/microcapital-story-%C2%A0barrack-obama-roots-in-microfinance-ties-to-usaid-ford-foundation-asian-development-bank-bank-rakyat-womens-world-banking-and-chicago%E2%80%99s-shorebank/
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/09/13/news/story09.html
?????
Anyway, keep this link below so we can follow their steps the next few years. See their “progress” in life with Obama (if he stays. Yeah, I know, it sucks to think about it, but we have to prepare for the worst case scenario.)
Donors to the Presidential Inaugural Committee:
http://www.pic2009.org/page/content/donors/
- Lawyers – a lot of corporate and real estate;
- Real estate developers: an example, the Antaramians in Florida with their land deal (http://www.naples-daily-news.com/news/2008/nov/17/naples-may-consider-land-buy-public-park-use/). God I keep getting that Rennaissance name everywhere.
- Politicians: check Jim Bernhard in Louisiana, he didn’t contribute himself but his wife Dana did, $50,000 and that’s for the inaugural ball only. Bernhard might run for Sen. Robert Byrd’s seat (Byrd is the chairman of the Appropriations Committee and just announced he will step down). Funny with Bernhard, he used to the the chairman of the Louisiana Democratic Party. He also chairs Shaw Group which bought 20 percent of Westinghouse in late 2006 and the two companies are designing a next-generation reactor (the Advanced Passive 1000, or AP 1000) that’s being installed at four Chinese facilities. Westinghouse also holds about a 60 percent share of the domestic reactor business and dozens of nuclear reactors are expected to be built in the US in the next several years.
Aren’t Dems supposed to be against nuclear development? Shaw Group has been invesstigated by the FCC for some contracts awarded as part of Katrina reconstruction efforts.
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/27516864.html?showAll=y&c=y
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Louisiana/Politics/Louisiana_Politics__Obama_Landrieu_Vitter_and_Jindal__7892.asp
http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20081227/NEWS01/812270317
http://www.jimbrownla.com/blog/?p=359
http://cenlamar.com/2007/01/16/jim-bernhard-ceo-of-shaw-group-may-run-for-louisiana-governor/
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2005-09-14-katrina-contracts_x.htm
In connection with the 2006 Barry’s trip to Kenya: first, identify the players: the Kenya Rural Enterprise Program (K-REP), established in 1984, became a South Shore Chicago NGO in 1987. K-Rep is partially owned by Shorebank, which in turn seeks to expand their below-market micro-business loans programs in Africa (little bits of money, lots of people, Africa way of doing business, yum,yum.)
http://www.k-repbank.com/content/view/72/99/
http://www.gdrc.org/icm/country/k-rep.html
http://www.shorebankcorp.com/bins/site/templates/child.asp?_resolutionfile=templatespath_child.asp&area_4=pages/nav/companies/right_side&area_2=pages/affililates/sbenterdetroit/sbenterdetroit_main&area_7=pages/titles/affiliate_title
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/movies/764365,CST-FTR-obama29.article
http://www.ifc.org/ifcext/africa.nsf/Content/SelectedPR?OpenDocument&UNID=A4E6DA7F6944C298852569760071DA7F
Shorebank is also Hillary’s well loved baby even if it has given her some sleepless knights.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4387983.html
http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/11/20/shorebank-the-green-festival-and-hillary-whats-the-connection/
Notes:
- Shorebank’s motto is “Let’s change the world”).
- What’s up with the red shirts “A la Chavez” that Obama and his people worn in Kenya??!!
Videos of Obama in Kenya, 2006:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:wARlJ-MJUQ8J:video.aol.com/video-detail/obama-and-shorebank-in-kenya-abc-7-wls-82706/382942998+obama+shorebank&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:VD0bxmhvIrkJ:www.vimeo.com/1310622+obama+shorebank&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
Pink Elephant, those links blow my mind! What could this mean?
Ksdb
You can disagree with the law all you like, but that doesn’t change it. The HIPAA laws are fairly new and provide a lot more confidentiality to patients. It doesn’t matter whether something has been publicized, if it’s otherwise illegal for the hospital to release it, it remains illegal.
lee M.: I have been praying daily that something like that comes along. Let’s all just keep praying. OK?
My comment at 12:28 pm is still awaiting moderation…
…did it go to the spam folder?
If you want to have a civilian armed force, destroy the military forces from within. Will this measure accomplish that end?
““In the field environment, you’re in very close proximity to one another. The fact that someone could be openly gay could exacerbate stress on teams and small units when you’re already at a high stress level.””
“The drive to repeal the law this time is coming from Congress,” she said. “Anybody who thinks that [Obama’s] administration won’t push for it is mistaken.”
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/12/122908_military_poll_DADT/
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/rangel-to-reintroduce-military-draft-measure-2009-01-14.html
drkate wrote:
Maybe Alito has been chosen to swear him in, an associate justice, not the chief justice, and he was in the bathroom throwing up as he realizes he could be impeached for swearing in a usurper?
I laughed out loud LOL and still giggling. It is so serious but necessary to try to see the light side sometimes.
When Obama “visited Grannie” in Hawaii, many suspected his travel was intended to shut up the Hawaiin government’s knowledge of the birthcertificate, right? It must have worked. Then when poor ole grannie died, Obama didn’t think it important to go back and organize a memorial ( such a grateful grandson). Now Obama’s and Biden’s trip to the Supreme Court was to shut them up, too. I think he is blackmailing everyone with the the threat of mob riots.
I’m anxiously awaiting the “crisis” that Colin Powell said would happen on Jan. 21 or Jan.22. Not.
At least outcry from citizens had an effect on the pres of NAACP of AL. He (boohoo) apologized for his tasteless remarks about the Azala Trail Maids’antibellum dresses at Obama’s coronation.
What I say is this- Make a loud noise everyday, all day until the truth is told.
Jeez! Geithner’s scam is even worse than we thought. America’s Right has an article about it. (I swear I didn’t plagiarize Jeff when I used the “raked over the coals” expression or when I referenced Joe the Plumber. Great minds must think alike. Synchronicity.)
Anyways, Jeff found an article by Byron York wherein he says that the IMF actually GAVE their employees a (sort of)bonus that they were to specifically use to pay their taxes. They had to sign a paper SWEARING that they would use the money to pay their taxes. Apparently, Geithner signed, but didn’t pay up.
FirstAmendment: Thanks for the serenade. Fitting, ain’t it?
Song: I like your song, too. “People of change.” Dittos galore!
Vote them ALL out.
Is this too much for which to hope?
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/12/big-picture-scotus-v-obama.html
jbjd: Thanks for your hard work on that military complaint. It IS ingenious. Here’s a possible explanation for your disappearing comments: If you ever clear your caches (temp files, cookies, etc.) then when you come back to the TD blog, any comments that you made beforehand but which aren’t yet posted will not be visible to you. Make another comment, and suddenly all of your comments show up “awaiting moderation.” That’s happened to me, as you can well imagine, since I tend to get “wordy.”
American Girl: Thanks for your insights. I appreciate the story about the man who’s BC was under an unusual name.
Gosh! More synchronicity. I just now read drkate’s comment on the other thread about “street theater.” As I said, great minds think alike! Guffaw!
Hawaii Hospial would only give you copy of
forged COLB. We need to see BC from
Kenya Hospital, not one from Hawaii Hospital. Thats why Obama is hiding BC,
it’s from Kenya Hospital.
Interesting article, GWB – our last president?
George W. Bush—the Last US President?
By Sher Zieve Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Will George W. Bush end up being the last true US President? Increasingly, it seems that he just may. As lawsuits against President-elect Barack Hussein Obama—questioning his US citizenship—continue to grow, he ever more adamantly continues his refusal to produce his real, viable and original birth certificate. Note: Obama’s supposed Hawaiian birth certificate is issued to those born outside of the USA who move to Hawaii. In fact, Hawaii issues “Certifications of Live Birth” to those who are foreign born. This is the same document that Obama and his team claim is his birth certificate.
Now, another ugly issue is rising within the Obama-minions’ camp. As I warned you on multiple times prior to the 2008 General Election, “once Obama is elected, we won’t be able to get rid of him.” Tragically, this warning is now being realized. Not only has Obama established his election-fraud organization—ACORN—nationwide, his adherents have now begun the process to repeal the US Constitution’s 22nd Amendment. This amendment sets term limits for US presidents. And Obama still plans to set up his national police force that he wants to be as large and well-funded as the US military. Note: Hitler and Stalin used their police forces to crush all of their opposition and Hitler employed his Gestapo to also round up, arrest and exterminate German Jews. One of today’s current national police forces is called Hezbollah.
So, with election-fraud units firmly in place, no term limits and his personal police to forcibly enforce his will upon the masses, Obama will likely never be voted from the office of POTUS. Only those who have lost the ability to see and/or hear do not recognize this increasing and eventually ultimate danger. To add insult to injury, during these current times of economic disaster—brought on by Obama and his Democrat friends—Obama’s inaugural ceremonies are reported and planned to exceed $150M! And, to top it off, it doesn’t even appear that Obama is a US citizen. Astounding…
Lawsuits regarding Obama citizenship:
The Obama “birth certificate”:
Move to repeal Presidential term limits begins:
Obama’s inauguration set to be the most expensive in US history:
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http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7596
On this and on other sites it has been mentioned that no one from Columbia ever remembers BO. It is more than umusual.
Has anyone researched wether or not he attended Columbia College in Chicago or the mid west? The school in N Y is not the only Columbia College.
(remember, none of his records have been released and his ties to the mid-west are strong.)
Renee have any adresses turned up in the mid west in 1981 till about 1984.
From theobamafile.com
~SNIP~
“My eighty-nine year old father practiced law for over 50 years. He was top in his class and clerked for the federal court. When the Gore case went to the SCOTUS he wrote the chapter, paragraph etc. that the court would decide the case on a piece of paper. He also wrote the vote tally and which justices would vote which way…..He gave the paper to a young judge in town and told him to open it when the decision was published……..He was 100% correct. He thinks any one who thinks that the SCOTUS is going to ignore or dismiss this case is delusional. He is much more qualified to judge the case then you are.
The Supreme Court had to wait until now for Berg to have standing. There is no precedence for this case. It is a historical decision and they will do everything they can to get it right. The constitution does not establish who vets the candidate. Part of their decision will determine who, or what will be held responsible in the future, if not now. It could destroy the Democratic Party if they are proved to be part of an intentional fraud. If Obama does not provide the documentation they request, he will be held in contempt, and they WILL obtain it…
Both Donofrio’s and Wrotnowski’s cases said the burden lays with the Secretary of State (SoS) not doing their job. There is no law that states that it is their job. So, the SoS would win the case. In Conference, they probably talked about who was responsible to vet the candidate. If it wasn’t the SoS of each state, they did not want to waste valuable court time and not hold Obama accountable. The burden to each SoS to vet each candidate for each office would be prohibitive in both time and expense. You will notice that neither cases were completely released but pending. They can be revisited and opinions may be written on them when a final release is given. Berg’s case, on the other hand, places the burden on the candidate, the party, and the FEC. Berg, however, did not have standing until Congress certified the electoral votes to present his case. He now has standing, as do Keyes and the other California cases.”
I been snooping around the internet and found the following document:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/obama-south-carolina-sec-of-state-respons.pdf
What strikes me as funny, is what was the documentary proof that Obama/Soetoro was actually qualified to be placed on the ballot.
CW or one of your attorney’s please check out the above link and see if there was in fact any documentary proof. Thank you in advance.
The time within which to file respondents’ brief on the merits is extended to and including January 22, 2009.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/07-1372.htm
Miri said @ 559pm -
(I swear I didn’t plagiarize Jeff when I used the “raked over the coals” expression or when I referenced Joe the Plumber. Great minds must think alike. Synchronicity.)
Ok, ok, Miri – now I feel like I have to do the same thing….
Yesterday, when I commented that Geithner’s story reminded me of Sandy Berger with the “docs in his socks” – after hearing the sordid tale on Rush @ 12 CST – in OK, we don’t get Sean until 3pm – so I didn’t know that’s exactly what Sean said until after my comment here…..as far as “thinking alike” – how scary is that, thinking just like Sean?….
Ok – now I feel better….
jbjd – thanks so much for the addtl info on the military complaint – I’m still waiting for a reply from Inhofe….so far, nada….
to clarify – this hasn’t actually been filed yet, right?
Renee – in one of your long posts on 09 w/ the connections – you listed – “Roy Mercer in OKC” – so I thought I’d see if I could get anything…the funny thing that is going to make getting deep enough on this – “Roy D Mercer” is a fictional character one of our hard rock radio stations has created that has really caughtt on – so I’ll keep trying – I’m new at this – so think of me with a teaspoon in my hand rather than a shovel….
AG
AOne, Try Wright in Dayton first.-Law school there. , as well as Texas Wes, and others Wes Univ.s. Look at Private ones too like TCU, SMU, Rice ,etc… May also want to try California LA area schools. Berkeley ? They had family on the East Coast, Fla, Ohio, Ok,Tx, Ks, Wis, Ohio, Louisiana, New Mexico, Az, Seattle Area etc..Where is Carnegie ? Canada ? Family involved there too. Maybe search Vancouver and Toronto Schools, as alot of fam roots there also. Also consider the “fake” Education possibility .Maybe he was BUSY then in another part of the world. Look as Barry or Berry as last name too as this name pops up in the Geneology lists also.
Fenley Girl, Re; Microchips. No way Jose ! this sounds like Matrix or some sh t ! People must be insane to let some crap be put in their body. Has the world gone mad ? !!!
Drkate, he wasn’t throwing up-he was HURLING ! You make me laugh ,but I still love the “Biden leaks Depends” ! my puppy went crazy and was barking and running in circles as I howled in laughter ! He could not decide if I was havin fun, or in severe distress ! Priceless ! Will laugh over that one forever !
When Obama takes the oath, he must swear at that time to uphold the constitution of the United States.
I’m going to watch the swearing in. Tape it … and zoom in… and dissect it.
Berg & everyone else now have standing is what I’m reading around the Internet (who the he// knows – the law seems to depend on where you read it); this should get interesting rather soon.
Miri -
the bonus to pay the taxes isn’t unusual, but the signing part doesn’t make sense. No employer would have an employee sign such a thing. They couldn’t care less and they sure don’t need a paper trail.
It’s just another form of bonus, and the ‘reason’ for the extra $ is verbal. It’s often attached to a monetary bonus, stocks, etc.
Probleee….
Maybe it wasn’t ANY Columbia. Maybe he really did go to school with Ayers… instead of a few blocks down.
Concerning Hillary Clinton and Holder, Attorney General nominee, recent Congressional confirmation hearings:
Is it just my imagination, or did Hillary and Holder face more difficult questions in their one day confirmation hearings than Obama faced from reporters, state officials, and federal officials during all these months of the long presidential campaign?
Dr Orly has a filed a great motion, worth a read:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/important-this-motion-was-filed-today.html
I sure wish Tim Russert were still alive. He would have asked Obama on 60 Minutes:
Exactly where, in which hospital, were you born?
What were the circumstances that caused you to register for a social security card in Connecticut while you were enrolled in high school in Hawaii?
Why will you not allow access to your college records?
Did you have any teachers, friends, or classmates from Columbia College who would remember you?
As a university professor of Constitutional law, how would you define “natural born citizen?”
Why will you not allow public access to your birth certificate?
Hope when it’s needed most!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5398
Re: Obama at Columbia
I’ve been looking for people’s blogs or comments concerning that and I found this…it’s just a comment so I don’t know how much credit you can give it. It’s interesting that this person says BO was there as an exchange student. Anyone know a way to track down the person who made the comment?
http://www.eandppub.com/2008/11/alaskas-worst-f.html
8th comment down
“(And btw – I went to Columbia with Obama – and I know for a fact he graduated in the bottom 1/3 of the class – how far down I dont know…and he didnt get in the normal way or transfer either – he was an “exchange student” and would never have gotten in with his high school grades and scores. I think the glass houses bit fits for his rabid rude supporters too)”
TD, Did you see the smooth landing of that plane in the Hudson River today ? Amazing ! What a pilot ! A true American hero ! Landed like on runway, all saved, but cold. Wow ! It made me so happy, seeing what peoplel are capable of. Together, at our best. The boats smoothly approached the plane. First 2, the four, then 6, 8 etc.. Rescue was unbelievable. We love you New York, and are so proud of you ! Kudos to the passengers ! Calm, focused, polite, careful, etc… Applause from my home ! This is the way it is supposed to be in the world………….
Q. How many of the 9 Supreme Court Justices does it take to screw in an Obama light bulb?
A. All 9. One to screw in the light bulb, and the others to light the candles as they all sing “Praise the Lord! Savior Obama has come to save us!”
The current SCOTUS threshold for a MUST STAY of BHO’s inauguration is not whether he is ultimately determined constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS, merely whether there now is SERIOUS QUESTION on his constitutional eligibility, since any determination of inelligibility AFTER inauguration would pose unnecessary civil and military difficulties.
Greg, I’m not disagreeing with the law. I’ve read it and nowhere does it say that directory information only pertains to current admissions. It couldn’t say that, because it would open the door to lawsuits left and right with places that have published hospital admissions. If no patient relationship is established, there’s no violation of privacy, so there’s nothing that legally prevents a denial of someone NOT ever being a patient in the hospital.
RENEE -
Did you mention at some point that Obama was once part of a recording studio – music – something… ?
If so, did it have anything to do with Trinidad?
The excerpt from the Obamafile.com sounds promising if legit. What does everyone else think about that??
Ted..
Are you saying what i think you’re saying?
That Scotus WILL say that the case DOES have merit BEFORE the inauguration as to minimize the potential for civil unrest, because asking the eligibility question afterwards would be too devastating to us as a nation and our National Security?
That would tell me that implementations would need to be in order for such a decision to come down from the Supreme court in terms of Security. My guess is that they are morally and ethically obligated to protect the citizens of the united states from harm whether from our enemies or our neighbors.
For some reason i truly doubt that Pres. Bush would spend such money on security for the inauguration if there already wasn’t something bigger happening. I also believe it was the Idaho National Guard that is now in Washington according to the armytimes.
Then again…”Hell will freeze over before that ever happens”.
Chicago is experiencing the coldest temps for over a decade……before a usurper takes office of the President.
In protest against the policies and legislation proposed by the congress and PE Obama, citizens are being asked to fly their flags upside down on January 20th.
Our country is in grave distress!
Post this everywhere.
Kay, thanks for that video. There will be new types of ways to bring about this ’spiritual awakening & moral rejuvenation’ (h/t ittrp).
I think if you take the view from Obamafile, and combine it with Ted’s statement of the need to NOW STOP the coronation and the conditions being ripe to do so, it is important to note that Obama already took an oath to uphold the constitution as a senator….so are they really waiting for the 20th? After he is sworn in the consequences are dire, hence more cases….what did Bill Clinton mean when he turned to OBama and said that ‘i know obama will uphold the constitution’?
so chess, checkers, stringing us along, I just don’t know right now. But there are more than enough signs to point to the ‘letting him have his coronation’ and then forcing him immediately to step down. MO will probably insist on staying in the WH with imbiben
On the inappropriateness of Roberts’ private meeting with Obama http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd428.htm
this is clearly another reason why it is just as likely the Supremes will do nothing!
while NObody at Columbia remember him, Occidental has no problem remembering.
articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/29/local/me-oxy29
gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/06/surprise-obamas-first-public-speech.html
I think I may have tracked down suz – found a democrat going by that name – I’m of the opinion that (she) did not go to school w/ Obama. I found her on other sites. She didn’t say it again that I could find.
What a whirlwind of poo.
tomorrow… well, today, the 16th, the supreme court meets. Obama goes away.
We keep Bush for a while longer. I’ve never been so relieved to say Thank Goodness we still have Bush.
I read a few days ago somewhere on a UK site where they were talking like Bush would possibly remain in office. I didn’t see how, but now maybe…
Monday is a federal holiday, as is Tuesday. If it doesn’t happen Friday –
Need to find out what time that meeting is on the 16th. Keep an eye on Berg’s site. This is that meeting he said he couldn’t talk about on the 16th then?
Diss, I know this is going to sound like a wierd answer to your question above. First, yes, I found a record label in NY owned by 2 Soloman Bros -Solomon ? I havn’t checked connections to THE Solomon Bros , so maybe…They did alot of Jazz and Disco, and timing right for his disco pics so I thought maybe a connection-clubs,etc..,but havn’t had time to pursue as I am in a big ,hot spot. I dont want to give away, until all links connected, but may need help from you this weekend w/ details please. Will keep the important info on 09 Fundraiser link for you to follow better. Need to keep that link in place to get TD some dough too !. One bro was Maynard, the other I will look up. Also later did Alisha label. Also did disco revival w/ new remixes-really messed up some good Donna Summer songs ! One bro loved classical. Trinidad is the wierd part. My friend lived there, and said there was a recording studio there, and was a Dr there long ago that specialized in Sex changes. She said it brought people from all over for treatment. Trinidad is a very tiny place w/ a Walmart and a Safeway, and nature, but it had a mine . Hasn’t been closed that long. Hummm…. Finding alot of gay info and foundations on this family, so maybe a Dr.-Med Family connection.???
Diss, Dual sex organisms- interest of family study. Shellfish, etc.. See hemephodites-sp ? Born dual sex parts at birth. Sex change, alterations, gay foundations, etc..etc.. Not just crustacians Diss……. Also see foundations, schools, med, etc.. for genetic disorders such as Obsessive Compulsive, suicide, speech disorders, manic depression, learning disabilities, mental and phys handicaps, Cancer, Pediatrics, learning centers, etc.. And fish. Old and new. Founders, etc.. Common names there ? Soloman-Solomon ? Frye, Dohrn, Ford, Rockefeller, Allyn, Canfield, Albritten- and alt. spellings of all names mentioned.
Diss, Forgot-ROTHSCHILD
Diss , Also, on the Res thing. Maybe Reis. ? Diff sp of our now name Reis ,Reese ,Reece, etc.. Maybe person giving info is not ok in English, or, Res Alien ? See Solomon Orner b. Feb 1825. Marr. Elisabeth Reis. Under fam nm Felix Orner Ulrich. Wish I knew how to do links on blog – www. kinfolks.info/Amer/a1144000.html
My understanding of the law is that Barack Hussein Obama IS the 44th President of the United States as of the certification of the Electoral College vote on January 8, 2009 when Vice President Cheney, in his role as President of the Senate certified the Electoral College vote and there were no objections from any Senator or Representative.
The Inauguration ceremony on the 20th is a formality to mark the beginning of his term in office with the Chief Justice swearing him in. After January 20th, the ONLY legal process that can effect the Obama Presidency is via a Bill of Impeachment passing in the House and a trial by the Senate voting to find him guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors” by a two-thirds majority.
The Supreme Court, as a co-equal branch of government has no power to remove a sitting president from office.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10499043/Barack-Obama-Breaking-the-War-Mentality-March-10-1983-Sundial
This link from The Obama File shows a copy of Columbia’s weekly newpaper from 1983 with an article by Obama. I do believe he was a foreign exchange student as said above.
AOne and jessicag– regarding Obama and Columbia– WND had an article yesterday about finding a paper Obama wrote while at Columbia when he was 21, and it is atrocious regarding grammar>>>
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86138
‘notmypresident’ and diss– regarding the case in hawaii based on Clinton’s 1993 Apology Resolution– Here’s the thread where I found discussion and the OP said (back in Dec. before the date was changed to Jan. 22nd) that ‘a major announcement” was about to take place. It is a LONG thread and weeding thru it is tedious, but I found that they were talking about that case. Here’s the thread>>>
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message690885/pg1
It may be a red herring, fwiw. But the speculation is that if the SCOTUS affirms the Hawaii Sup. Ct., then it opens the door for other “land grant and title issues”– for example, the Louisiana Purchase, wherein the federalists at the time “strongly opposed the purchase believing it to be unconstitutional”.
OT (then again, who knows? Maybe it IS on topic! LOL) — has anyone seen the promos of the new series coming in March called “KINGS?”
http://www.nbc.com/Kings/
ksdb– I used to work for DOJ dealing specifically with health care fraud issues, and I can tell you that even when we had to show lists of patient names and info, it had to be redacted and replaced by coded information with the identifying information protected yet available to the court if need be. In other words, no one is going to take a chance that they ‘might’ break HIPAA … They will just not reveal it regardless and use HIPAA as the reason.
- a few reflections on yesterday’s – “miracle on the Hudson”…..IMO -truly a reminder to us all, our Maker is still in control….I am taking this as a sign of hope, hope He is still watching over our beloved Home, America…..
- the call-ins from the pilots & mechanics, etc on the talk shows yesterday – confirming what an absolute brilliant maneuver this pilot made – his resume? he actually had the experience he would need to make this kind of risky landing…..the eye witness reports – the fact these passengers acted in a “calm manner”…..the fact that plane is still floating out there……
……what a reminder of the power of American ingenuity & bravery….
I felt an indescribable surge of hope yesterday that I haven’t felt in a very long time…..
ITookTheRedPill: (1/15/09 12:28 p.m.)
Exactly. Nuanced. Clintonesque–which is merely shorthand for how ALL lawyers speak. You have to read between the lines. Here’s what she said:
“I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record . . .”
You asked, “So, did they see the BC itself?”
No way. Take that sentence apart:
I . . . have personally seen and verified THAT . . .
That what? That she has seen THAT THE BC IS ON RECORD.
What’s especially problematic is the verb “has” right before “Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate.” There’s no way to diagram the sentence and come to the conclusion that she viewed the BC itself. No way.
She did NOT say that she has personally SEEN Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate.
She simply said that she’s seen (and verified) THAT it’s on record.
They counted upon everyone misunderstanding that sentence. Counted upon them believing that she SAW the document and that she was therefore certifying (verifying) that he was born in Hawaii.
She added all the language about their titles (Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, Registrar of Vital Statistics) and the business about “statutory authority” to lend gravitas to the sentence.
Take out all the bull and misdirection and you’ll see that ALL she said was that they checked and an original birth certificate is there in their files, somewhere.
It’s hard to believe that it’s a coincidence that she used the word “SEEN”. That word leads people who aren’t listening carefully into believing that what was SEEN was the BC.
But all she did was to SEE TO IT that the record is on file.
She used the word “verified” to make everybody believe that she was vouching for his statement that he was born in Hawaii.
But oh, so cleverly, she was not. She wouldn’t do that, not if she has a brain in her head, because sooner or later truth will out and she will not want to be on record as having lied to the American people.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that statement were not hand-delivered to her office by someone on a junket to Hawaii. Would you?
This is a perfect example of the type of “transparency” that we’ll see over the next 4 years.
Pink Elephant, I appreciate that you may have had a protocol to follow and in your example, you appear to be talking about a whole lot more than just simple directory information, which is exempted from the same privacy protocols. There are also other types of exemptions. Hospital admissions have and CAN be allowed in the media. For example, if someone is in a car accident, then the hospital where that person is taken can be listed in the newspaper. There is an allowance for judgment calls. With Obama’s mama and Obama’s birth information, there’s really not a reasonable expectation of privacy.
AOne (15th, 6:55): Coincidence? This turns up from Columbia, linked from the obamafile site:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10499043/Barack-Obama-Breaking-the-War-Mentality-March-10-1983-Sundial
An essay by BHO. It’s a lot of tripe, but interesting that it turns up now, right when everybody’s talking about no records of him at Columbia.
American Girl: Same thing happened to me with regard to Hannity and Limbaugh. I remember hearing them talk about Berger, sloppiness, Joe the Plumber, and Geithner, and I wondered if they’re reading TD’s blog to get ideas. Snark! (I hear them on a delayed basis, too.)
Late yesterday, I caught up with the comments on other threads, where I finally read your comment about Berger’s “docs”. But that was after I wrote similar comments about Berger. Sometimes, all of our very similar comments are hanging out together, “awaiting moderation.”
Indeed, great minds do think alike. Synchronicity, as I said.
But really, we’re all thinking along the same lines and connecting the same dots, so it’s no surprise that we come up with the same connections and notice the same ironies.
renee— I’m not sure I follow yet where you’re going with your research, but did you read the link Deborah provided regarding the article Obama wrote at Columbia? He references the “Solomon bill” regarding the requirement to register with the selective service or be cut off from financial aid for college expenses.
– not sure if it’s important, but thought I’d let ya know.
JustinCredible: Obama is now constitutionally the president after the electoral college vote verification, and then will be the pres if he is sworn in. But millions of us know that he is an illegal president, a usurper.
But the impeachment process is only reserved for legal presidents–not usurpers. So to remove Obama he will have to be arrested and physically taken out of the WH. This is the problem with a usurper–chaos, the military is not accountable to him. This is what Soetoro has brought to America.
Nothing that starts with bad intention will work. His ego driven, hidden agenda, lies and bad intentions will cause him to fall very, very hard. He will be frogmarched out of the whitehouse before 2009 is done….by the people, by the FBI, by the Secret Service, or by the military.
This whole farce is outrageous. The entire cabinet, leadership of the house and senate, all of them involved in this coup d’etat. They will be held accountable.
diss: I bow to your superior knowledge/interpretation. This from the Byron York piece:
“The tax allowance has turned out to be a key part of the Geithner situation. This is how it worked. IMF employees were expected to pay their taxes out of their own money. But the IMF then gave them an extra allowance, known as a “gross-up,” to cover those tax payments. This was done in the Annual Tax Allowance Request, in which the employee filled out some basic information — marital status, dependent children, etc. — and the IMF then estimated the amount of taxes the employee would owe and gave the employee a corresponding allowance.
At the end of the tax allowance form were the words, “I hereby certify that all the information contained herein is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and that I will pay the taxes for which I have received tax allowance payments from the Fund.” Geithner signed the form. He accepted the allowance payment. He didn’t pay the tax. For several years in a row.”
That’s why I said a “sort of bonus.” But it seems to me that this paperwork at least proves that he KNEW that he owed those taxes. Yet he didn’t pay up until forced to by an IRS audit and now by the circumstances of his nomination. I wonder how an impartial jury would judge his intent in this instance? An “honest mistake?” Don’t think so.
Well, it IS transparent!
Correct analysis, Miri. I am sure this was a carefuly crafted statement designed to distract. Certainly those dumbos in congress, who made form letters out of it, fell for it. That is enough reason in itself to replace all 635 members of the house and senate.
BTW, we’re thinking of forming the new party: The People’s Party of America (PPA)….on BTR some of us will now put up a show called “Constitution Radio Network”, inviting scholars, historians, etc to solidify our understanding and to also look at the ‘legal legs’ underneath any attempt to rectify the usurper presidency.
I am wearing a black armband and flying my American flag upside down on January 20th.
American Girl – WELL SAID!
I only lurk here most of the time. I just read on America’s right, Jeff’s blog that Lawdawg has posted.
Lawdawg said…
The Application (08A505) for an injunction submitted to the Court by Justice Scalia is denied.
-Lawdawg
I used to not believe him/her. But when he/she started reporting the rulings from SCOTUS months ago before anyone else knew, he has always been right and I have no reason to not believe him now. I don’t know how he/she knows so soon, but always does.
Just thought y’all might like a heads up.
Pink Elephant –
Nothing could be further from the truth. With the Louisiana Purchase it dawned on everyone that the Northwest Ordinance, which was adopted under the Articles of Confederation, was still the ‘law of the land.”
There were many debates about it, and a lot said, but in the end, the entire matter was dropped, and the Northwest Ordinance was used with minor modifications to admit every single State into the Union, including Alaska and Hawaii.
Article XI of the Articles of Confederation even invited Canada to join in, if they wanted to. Obviously, they didn’t.
Sorry that I repeated the link that you guys already found (about the BHO Columbia essay). I commented on it before I finished reading the entire thread.
I checked back and that essay was posted (if I interpret the site correctly) 13 hours ago, which would put it right after midnight today. Interesting.
Yesterday, we’re all talking about how there’s no evidence of him at Columbia and suddenly this essay shows up. Trolls and bots monitoring? Or somebody trying to help fill in his resume for us?
I wonder if other copies of that magazine would reveal what his status at Columbia was. Don’t mags usually include a paragraph about the author? Was he a regular writer? If so, wouldn’t there be something, somewhere, explaining his background? Exchange student, as somebody said elsewhere? Interesting.
Oy! Sorry again. I went to the WND link and found that Cashill wrote about the essay on the 15th but he says Ben Smith posted it “two days ago”. So that would be the 13th. Nevermind.
http://spacecoaststargirl.bravejournal.com/
Tis is a forensic astrology blog and the astrologer has done a chart for inauguration day.Scroll down to the post: The Presidential Inauguration
An excerpt:
Another bellwether for me is Mars in the ninth. There may be foreign unrest, such as violence or other outbursts overseas. There may be a big event in the war in Iraq or the outbreak of another war. Coupled with Pluto in the eighth, there could be insurrections or acts of violence. It just looks like, with this combination, that some sort of chaos or disaster may occur. I would not rule out violent acts of nature like tsunamis or volcanoes; however, with Pluto it is usually a mass consciousness type of event, involving mobs or underground groups like criminals or terrorist organizations. Mars is in Capricorn which tends to point at political activity and power centers in society, which sort of defines terrorism for me when tieing politics and chaos together. I hope to God this does not mean someone may try to assassinate this man. But don’t say I didn’t warn you; it is possible.
The last aspect I must address is the Moon in Scorpio in the seventh house. Hillary Clinton is a Scorpio so she may have some role to play during the day’s events. She is a sort of role model and heroine for many women so with the Moon here she may be in the spotlight for some reason. She may give a speech sometime during the day’s activities or her supporters may come out in force. The Moon is square Neptune so women’s issues may be in the forefront this day, with a large number of women turning out for the event. There could be demonstrations or altercations among women who do not believe Obama has their best interests at heart. Attention will also be given to Michelle Obama, not only because of the Moon in the seventh house but also because she is a Capricorn and Mars is near her Sun. Because of this, I worry a little for her safety. Mars and Uranus, a troublesome aspect on this day, can cause unexpected upsets of an unwelcome kind. I just hope she is careful. Not all of the attention she receives will be welcome.
In keeping with recommendations to boycott all MSM outlets, I have some additions: Boycott Pepsi and Honest Tea, too, since they are going over the top and politicizing their businesses–hyping for That One.
Did y’all hear this one? Found at Gateway Pundit:
“The Outdoor Wire, the nation’s largest daily electronic news service for the outdoor industry, has named President-elect Barack Obama its “Gun Salesman of the Year”. With the selection, Outdoor Wire publisher Jim Shepherd says it is time the firearms industry recognizes the fact that without President-elect Obama’s frightening consumers into action, the firearms industry might be suffering the same sort of business slumps that have befallen the automotive and housing industries.”
Hilarious!
Next 4 years? Try this…
“111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. J. RES. 5
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 6, 2009
Mr. SERRANO introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
JOINT RESOLUTION
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:
Article — ‘The twenty-second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.’.
Introduced in the House of Representatives. This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration. This is the latest version of the bill available on this website.
Obama isn’t even sworn in yet and the dhimmicrats are setting the stage for Obama to pull a Hugo Chavez.”
from theobamafile.com
Freudian slip by Maureen Dowd?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/opinion/14dowd.html?_r=1
“usurper Obama”????
American Girl
I had those same feelings yesterday, It also seemed ironic that this miracle happened on the same day President Bush gave his farwell address.
Let us hope that this miracle is God’s way of reminding us all that he is watching and will help lead us thru this.
We all need to keep the faith and keep praying for our country and constitution.
Hidden in plain sight.
Obama’s closest advisor, Valerie Jarrett, may be an older friend than we think.
Wiki explains she was born in Iran,where her father, a pathologist and a GENETICIST ran a children’s hospital, as an American medical expert, to assist developing countries in their health and farming efforts. Perhaps a theme from the movie “The Boys from Brazil” resonates here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett
BTW, I am not a linguistic expert, but something tells me that English is probably Obama’s second or third language. Maybe Farsi first, then some Indonesian dialect, and finally English taught to him by Stanley Ann prior to sending him to her “mother” back in Hawaii.
does anyone here have an account with Ancestry.com? I used to and still get offers from them to rejoin (can’t afford it right now). Anyway this is what came today by email… take note of the last paragraph – naturalization records through 1992!
Would you like to know more about where your ancestors came from? Immigration is a pivotal part of our personal heritage, but can also be one of the more elusive challenges for the family history detective.
Luckily, naturalization records can not only be a tremendous help in solving mysteries, they are one of the richest sources of personal, family, and immigration information available.
That’s why we’re especially excited to announce we’ve just launched indexes to nearly 3 million naturalization records from 1791 all the way through 1992, and that we will soon be releasing nearly 2 million original naturalization records.
Just noticed the comment and link by drkate which is very important, and as a retired attorney it is outrageous and illegal for any meeting between a case pending defendant and any judge who is party to the case. Once the case is active in a court of law only the attorney representing the defendant may request a meeting with the judge in chambers with the prosecutor present for discussion – this is a disgrace beyond the pale.
As a point counter point, many years ago spent time with Leonard Cohen at Ben’s Deli and Irving Layton at a corner table after 1:00 AM. I was so young and my Jewish mother took exception of me coming home at 4:00 AM in the morning as was worried about women who might be there lol. This entire scenerio reminds me of Cohen’s song ” Everybody Knows.”
Howdy to All!
I recognize some of the handles here and believe I am among friends. I’m the Zeke from NQ and frankly, guys, it has taken me much longer to finally sicken of the pontifications and occasional slanders seen at the above “mentioned only the once” site, but, as Popeye was wont to say, “That’s alls I can stands… I can’t stands no more!”
Texas,
I watched you and Larry J. duke it out over the early battles over The Kenyan
and found myself at the time, wondering what was up with LJ in being so adamantly against you stating your position. I should have been paying closer attention.
Now, in this time of conflict in the ME, there has suddenly become only one true opinion over at “that place” and there isn’t any room for critical thought or opposing ideas.
If Texas Darlin’ still digs The First Ammendment, I think I’d like to come here to hang my intellectual and political hats instead of a place where thoughts different from mine are the only ones allowed.
As Frasier used to say, “I’m Listening…”
“After January 20th, the ONLY legal process that can effect the Obama Presidency is via a Bill of Impeachment”
If he’s determined to be an usurper, impeachment is irrelevant. He’s not the president, he’s not impeachable. He’s arrested like the common criminal he is. If law enforcement fails to act, it’s torches and pitchforks time.
Deborah, Jan. 16, 2009, 10:53 am
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10499043/Barack-Obama-Breaking-the-War-Mentality-March-10-1983-Sundial
This link from The Obama File shows a copy of Columbia’s weekly newpaper from 1983 with an article by Obama. I do believe he was a foreign exchange student as said above.
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Deborah, I wish someone could track down Columbia students who worked at the Columbia newspaper when Obama had his article published in 1983.
Maybe some of those students could tell us about Obama, for instance, maybe they could tell us if Obama was considered an exchange student.
Does anyone know who the Columbia editor was at the time Obama had his article published back in 1983?
Miri said –
American Girl: Thanks for your insights. I appreciate the story about the man who’s BC was under an unusual name.
Miri – You are welcome – I thought it might be helpful….I couldn’t believe what she was telling me – made me wonder – at some point was it acceptable to have a baby- and name it whatever you wanted w/o any kind of proof that that was your name?….
I mean, remember, there was a time when people didn’t have mounds of ins forms to complete in order to get medical service – so I guess it is possible if you were trying to hide the birth of a baby for whatever reason – maybe you could get away with it.
– yet another point I never thought I would be pondering until this election…..ah yes, I have learned alot these last few months….
http://maps.google.com/maps?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS310&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=college+Columbia++Connecticut&fb=1&split=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=5&ct=image
gives the colleges close to Columbia Connecticut.
Hey Bob, — on the ‘big announcement’ thing about the Hawaii case (and its theoretical effect on other land titles), I don’t have a dog in the fight– but I quoted what is on wiki regarding the domestic opposition to the Louisiana Purchase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase#Negotiation).
Also– Maybe this is pizza, and maybe divine
) But I had a dream last night where I saw BHO as a college age kid in a hospital bed, and I came up and started reading his chart…I saw something about Columbia, and then a lady (I think it was Maya) came over and snatched it out of my hand and said that was none of my business. In the dream I was thinking the info referred to “Columbia” as a city though– not necessarily the college, but that may be because I was already thinking that since no one could remember him at Columbia….
Anyway– I toss that out there, fwiw. lol
Do you suppose he ever gave blood as a college kid?
hmmm…
Yep…..Past tired of playing fair just and sitting on our/my laurels….I’m ready for the fight of my life….don’t even get me started….Now the nasty comes out ….since the spineless ….spinless jerks who should care what has been addressed… and choose to play with us/me……we are way past ready…..
Pick your your days and hours……we cowboys are packed and ready for ya all!!!!!
LETS ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!
Miri and everyone, the better point is, given the obvious obfuscation in these words from the HI official, did staff members from Annenberg Political FactCheck intentionally misinterpret her to say, BO was born in HI? Because that’s what they wrote on their blog. Or, are they too stupid to discern the meaning of her words? If so then, why do all of the members of Congress cited in my military Complaint place such stock in what their staffers have to say? (Annenberg Political FactCheck’s web site contains a disclaimer that, only their staff are responsible for what they say.)
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
Amen, Kathy!
Prayers for our country, her people and our leaders are definitely needed at this hour.
I agree. I’m very thankful Pres Bush was able to bid us farewell without the reality of a disaster weighing on his heart.
Yesterday was a good day.
Miri, On the post above re; gun sales above. More then meets the eye here. Look up the gun selling family Anschutz online in other countries. Look up owner of Quest and LA soccer team, NBC, GE, # 31 on Forbes richest in USA.- Philip Frederick Anschutz. GE ? – Thomas Ayers-Bill’s dad worked there too. Funny ! Then look up a Pierre Anschutz here in the US. Primary Investigator- WOD Code Tables .noaagov ? I looked up the possible abbreviations for WOD. Miri. It can stand for Web of Darkness, or Wepons of Destruction.
Pink Elephant re; above. Soloman, Soloman, Solaman. Everywhere I dig I find the Rothschild Family. See for info also ; WTC- Solomon Bros Bldg fell. They were doing book building on hedge funds there. See; Anton Dohrn also as in Bernadine. See Allyn family, Armour, Ayres-Ayers – like Thomas and William, Frye-Fry, Kelly, Canfield – Casinos- Orig. the Canfield Players clubs, Ford, Fod-, Food , Morgan, Stanley, Daily-Daly family, Dunham Sports, Welles-Wells, etc… Rothschilds= Solomon-Soloman everything ! every stone I uncover has this name attached if it isn’t Rockerfeller, it is Rothschilds. Look at the geneology sites, and save them before gone. Most of pics already scrubbed. Book building on hedge funds ? , hum.. Is that a nice ,business like way to say Bookmaker bookie, ? Like the Mafia does betting and breaks people’s arms over ? Like the Soprano’s ? Hum….Didn’t I read somewhere online that Rod Blago baby was a “bookmaker” before he got into politics ? Wouldn’t that mean Rod Blago baby knows all ? Have our banks and businesses become mob high stakes gambling pools ?
scarolina
I have an account with acestory.com and I have been all over it..not for a month or so tho..
Tell me what to look for and I will be more then happy to!
Zeke, glad to see ya here ! I gave that place up long ago. Nothing really said out of alot of talk. Bothered me. Never posted there, just looked sometimes. Found dialogue childish.
scarolina
I have an ancestry.com subscription. Checked the modern naturalization records for Obama, Dunham, Soetoro, Sutoro. Only surname in indexes was Dunham, no Barry or Barack.
Hi Zeke! Nice to see you!
Ox said~
“…it is outrageous and illegal for any meeting between a case pending defendant and any judge who is party to the case. Once the case is active in a court of law only the attorney representing the defendant may request a meeting with the judge in chambers with the prosecutor present for discussion…”
Thank you for posting this. I am outraged. “Protocol” and tea parties aside, I expect a clear and defined line between the Executive branch and the SCOTUS. A defined line between SC justices and parties to cases pending before them.
SCOTUS is the last and final resort of citizens. They are benefitted by appointment for LIFE in order to be free and clear of any sort of influence. WHY are they having tea & cookie parties with the Executive branch?! They are SPECIFICALLY supposed to be apart from it!
WTF.
Here i go again reading into things..
Body Language.
You all noticed obama’s pic with the supremes at their “meeting”.
Notice how Biden has his hands just atop the supreme seat. He knows it is a seat of authority therefore his hands aren’t all over the seat as if it were his and he had authority over it. He has respect for the seat.
Then notice obama hangin all over the chair as if he owns it.
Notice that what ever was said at the instance of the picture taken, the look on everyones face. Obama is smilin the biggest.
Roberts..same…or is that the cheshire cat?
The guy in back is lookin to see if the higher ups are smiling..cuz if they are..he will too.
The gal and the other man in back..well…whatever was said they didn’t agree with it, therefore they were looking at the floor,sort of like a “we’ll see” stance. Or “i’m not partaking in this fiasco.” Arms crossed or hands clasping eachother.
Maybe justice roberts did recuse himself from obama/berg case because of a conflict of interest and handed it off to Scalia to deal with. Therefore Scalia could not attend due to a conflict of interest. Nobody said he was sick or anything. I don’t think he would actually have to publicize the recusing of the case. Maybe just privately between all the justices.
And to the gals above this who thought that it was a “miracle of things to come when that airplane landed on top of the water..same day as the fairwell address.”.I believe you’re right..God will keep us all afloat…at the last minute.
Believe.
God Bless this US Soil
Hey..i think i just said something stupid above.
I thought that berg vs obama went to Roberts. It went to Scalia and he referred for conference on the 16th.
That’s why Scalia wasn’t there. There IS a conflict of interest!
If there wasn’t a conflict of interest….If they were going to throw it out…he would have been at that conference.
Right?
No reason was given as to why he wasn’t there.
Zeke,
Welcome. You’ll like us here. TD is the best. That individual to whom you refer is what he has always been: a know-it-all phonyand tyrant. Remember, he’s the one who had the real “inside knowledge” about the whitey tapes and October surprises. We are still waiting
Deborah, interesting. One surprise would be a foreign attack somewhere in the world that forces the cancellation of the inauguration of obama, right before he is about to take the oath. But all the people who seem to deal in this arena are already convinced barack is the one, but I am not sure their reasoning is why. Will he transform the world because he is a transformer? No, but he might help us fully wake up as we realize he was a faker from the beginning.
Miri. Quite the slip I would say.
Usurper indeed. Maybe she’ll have to resign like Richardson did after spilling the frijoles that barky was an immigrant.
Finnegan–agreed, impeachment does not apply to barky. If he is not arrested by the military, FBI or others, then its citizens arrest for me!
Deborah and all:
Deborah gave us this link, but I can’t really read the article:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10499043/Barack-Obama-Breaking-the-War-Mentality-March-10-1983-Sundial
Deborah wrote: This link from The Obama File shows a copy of Columbia’s weekly newpaper from 1983 with an article by Obama. I do believe he was a foreign exchange student as said above.
1. Would someone please SAVE this page now before it gets scrubbed?
2. Would someone please write here a brief summary of the article?
3. Deborah – please explain what in the article makes you think he’s a foreign exchange student? This is EXTREMELY important! If there is any quote in the article supporting this, you must immediately print the article, circle the supporting words, and mail it to Patrick Fitzgerald and Chief Justice Roberts. Google them for addresses. Thanks.
Miri wrote:
Freudian slip by Maureen Dowd?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/opinion/14dowd.html?_r=1
“usurper Obama”????
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Well, here is the exact paragraph:
She (Hillary) will easily intimidate the world’s dictators, just as she often intimidated Obama in the primaries. But it remains to be seen whether she can put aside her tendency to see disagreement as disloyalty. Can she work at the State Department with those who deserted her to support the usurper Obama? Can she manage Foggy Bottom better than she managed her foggy campaign?
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“Can she work at the State Department with those who deserted her to support the usurper Obama?”
I think she meant it as – that Obama took away her lead in the primaries, took away the job she thought she would easily have. That’s what SHE meant by usurper.
But that was a curious choice of words!
Obama: Were you born in Queens or Kapiolani hospital?
During my recent research on google, it seems to me that most people in Hawaii believe that Obama was born in Kapiolani hospital.
But what Hawaii hospital does Obama himself say is his Hawaii birth hospital?
As we all know, Obama is conspicuously silent when asked about his Hawaii birth hospital.
But in my research on google, I came across a statement in an Illinois assembly publication that says Obama was born in Queens hospital.
1. Below is part of a long article in an Illinois publication on Obama. It says Obama was born in Queens Hospital.
2. My question is this: How would an Illinois publication know to write that Obama was born at Queens hospital in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, since Obama’s Hawaii short form birth certificate that Obama has displayed on his fight the smears website does not list Obama’s birth hospital?
3. My answer is this: The only way, as I see it, for the Illinois publication to be able to list Queens Hawaii hospital as Obama’s birth hospital is if Obama himself gave the information to the Illinois assembly publication that Queens hospital was Obama’s Hawaii hospital back in Aug.4, 1961.
4. NOTE: The Illinois publication below is the “Illinois General Assembly: Encyclopedia II”. It seems to be an official and important Illinois state publication:
“Barack Obama – Illinois General Assembly: Encyclopedia II
- Barack Obama – Early life
Barack Obama was born at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii to Harvard University-educated economist Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a native of Kenya, and S. Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas. At the time of Obama’s birth, both his parents were students at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Of his years in Hawaii, Obama has written, “The irony is that my decision to work in politics, and to pursue such a career in a big Mainland city, in some sense grows out of my Hawaiian upbringing, and the idea … ”
5. So, again, dear Obama, were you born in Hawaii at Queens or Kapiolani hospital? As I understand it, a baby cannot be born in two hospitals.
Sadly, Obama ain’t talking.
I got the screen shot of that ny times article just in case it disapears..
Also my take on the body languge of the tea party..
6 with arms crossed, Roberts with hands tied behind his back…
the lil lady looking down on it all and scalia was there right..
or was it a typo?
OTrama yes all over the chair like an ill mannered child cuttin up!
Biden as always showing what crest white strips will do for ya!
Blahhhhh this is got to be a nightmare…wake me up please…no more!
CalifGirlInMaine and Kay: Can you guys do a thorough search of Dunham; Obama; Payne; for Canada? Or does Ancestry only cover the U.S.?
jbjd: You know they are all covering for O. It has nothing to do with stupidity — they all KNOW. It doesn’t take a neurosurgeon to understand the clear intent of our Framers. All of Congress KNOW O is ineligible because of his father, etc..
know, O is ineligible ALREADY, regardless of what is on the face of his birth certificate, whether he was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or on the moon, doesn’t matter IF SCOTUS ACTUALLY RULED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTENT OF OUR FRAMERS. But since it appears SCOTUS has no integrity (with the exception of Alito, I believe it was Alito who did not attend, I’m not sure though) ….
As for the birth certificate — yes, showing birth outside the U.S. would be a more persuasive argument for intoxicated kool-aid drinkers, but as YOU, our personal blog attny
Yes, Ox & DTOMF, that was absolutely inappropriate and disrespectful for SCOTUS to have him over for tea — I felt as if SCOTUS spit on all of us, and on the attorneys fighting for us and for our Constitution. SCOTUS diminished themselves — very sad — I used to actually BELIEVE in the law, I used to naively believe that SCOTUS was the highest most honorable court in the Land, I used to believe they were honest and defined integrity — sadly, I no longer hold these beliefs — I’m serious, it truly does break my heart — we have nothing of “goodness” in our world, our land, nothing “noble” — its gone.
As for annenberg/factcheck, etc., not worth my breath — that O/Soros money has taken, and will continue to take, care of LOTS of people/organizations/etc..
Dr. Kate: Thank you for being you, thank you for existing!
Hi to the new bloggers
to all lurkers (except for you obots
) and, of course, to everyone else here!
Everybody read this – very funny.
We need to laugh.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol/996148004.html
Proof that Barak is the obamessiah
Don’tTrampleOnMyFlag said:
That’s why Scalia wasn’t there. There IS a conflict of interest!
- correct me if I’m wrong – but I thought it was Alito that wasn’t there, not Scalia? – I know someone sent links for articles – & Dr. Kate said “Alito was somewhere throwing up”
I don’t have legal exp, but it sounds like “who was there & wasn’t” may be an impt clue as far as the pending cases – so would someone w/ knowledge please clarify this.
- & forgive me if these comments have already been made – once again, I chose to sleep rather than stay up all night – so I’ll have to catch up this AM
and Welcome Zeke!
and Miri – thank you, I agree – and I take it as a great compliment – “great minds think alike” – yes, we are all working the same puzzle, and what Renee & Co are digging up – is mindblowing (Dr. Kate – please insert one of your little smiley things!)
Don’t do the black armband and upside down flag thing.
That’s what the KKK is advising.
Good morning, fellow patriots!
Two things: Don’t Trample, it was ALITO who wasn’t there. Scalia wasn’t in the picture, but by all accounts I’ve read he was present.
And, I don’t know where I read this (in my frantic search for ANYTHING that would give me hope that this episode of The Twilight Zone is almost over!) so if it was here please forgive me, but someone said maybe Roberts had him over for tea so he could get his fingerprints off the cup for a DNA sample…! Doubtful, but it still made me smile
Keep praying for our country!
My husband had an interesting take on the wonderful pilot who landed that plane in the Hudson. He said it was interesting coming at a time when we have someone with no experience taking over as leader of our country. He said if it hadn’t been for the pilot’s many years and thousands of hours of experience in the air, there could have been a great tragedy. Certainly gives one a shudder to wonder how Obama will pilot this great nation with little experience and even greater naivete.
Welcome Zeke! (((waving)))
Donttrample
If any of these cases were to be heard, all of the justices would take part in judging it. It doesn’t make much sense for just one to recuse himself.
The inauguration has already started and it’s only Saturday. The chosen ones have started their trek. They are already tracking both Biden and Barky’s every step. They are now boarding a train in Delaware. The train is coming down the track. Biden and Barky sat down in their seats. They just swallowed. Oh my! They are breathing, too! In and out. In and out. It’s on TV and on the radio. Must be some breaking news here.
John Mirse,
Obama Sr. was not Harvard-educated at the time Obama Jr. was born, correct? So, the Illinois assembly publication has got that wrong, too, correct? (”Barack Obama was born at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii to Harvard University-educated economist Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a native of Kenya, and S. Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas. “)
My belief is that anything put out by the State of Illinois is suspect. That state is still corrupt and untrustworthy!
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Now will give you the punchline in regards this meeting between Obama and a Judge within the Supreme Court with litigation pending and want you to think really hard about this scenerio. The Judge in question should step down immediately because he has made a mockery of America, but this gets better.
Obama who is a fraud and a clown holds himself out to America as a Professor of Constitutional Law and this and that which is all bullshit as he was a mere part-time lecturer. Now, if Obama was intelligent which he is not, he would have had the intelligence and dignity to say:
” Sorry there are cases against me and this would be a conflict of interest to meet any of the Supremes at this time.” Obama promised you change, and what did you get? You got a President elect who is an idiot and don’t care about what is right – the man is a train wreck! In my humble opinion Obama has no moral integrity; is a liar; and a fraud.
Its so unfortunate that the easy way to force release of Obama’s vault copy Certificate of Live Birth wasn’t utilized. Hawaii’s Vital Records statutes require “a tanglible interest” in a confidential vital record in order to release it. Almost all of the legally specified examples of “tangible interest” involve the person named on the record or their immediate family but one example of tangible interest involves needing the document in a legal procedure.
Both Hawaii’s current governor, Linda Lingle and Hawaii’s Attorney General Mark Bennett are Republicans who endorsed John McCain for President. Governor Lingle even spoke at the Republican Convention and she was the only governor to not attend a governors’ meeting with Obama in Washington D.C.
If proper political pressure had been brought to bear pushing the state of Hawaii to charge Obama with the criminal acts of forgery and/or fraud in his posting of the Certificate of Live Birth that appears on the “Fight the Smears” website, a Grand Jury would have been convened and an indictment would have been issued for forgery and fraud. That would have easily forced release of the original long form document to verify or negate the forgery and/or fraud charges. Every other legal maneuver that has been used in this case has been a civil law suit and not a criminal complaint (think Rod Blagojevich in Illinois and the quick action on his crimes due to arrest and indictment).
Both Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Health Department and Dr. Alvin T. Onaka, Registrar of Vital Records for the state of Hawaii are appointees of Republican Governor Lingle. Onaka’s name even appears on Obama’s copy of his short form Certification of Live Birth that is still viewable on the web.
If attorneys for the Republican National Committee and the McCain=Palin for President campaign had acted in concert with the Governor’s administration in Hawaii, this mess probably could have easily been exposed and dealt with in proper legal form. It makes me sick that it didn’t happen.
I want to share an e-mail I was inclined to send out today to family and friends after being on the receiving end of a bullish e-mail from my Aunt and Uncle who live in the same city as me and go to the same Catholic Church as me!
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Dear Friends and Family—-As we approach the possible swearing in of an illegal candidate to the POTUS please read the following information and letter to the editor sent to the Washington Times by Lonnie Leczo of Louisville, Kentucky.
Sadly, I was recently accused by a family member of not giving Mr. Obama a chance…. and degrading him. In the sentence before that I was told how “excited they were about our new leadership and finally got rid of the biggest crook in history. GEORGE W. BUSH”. It struck me as ironic because I was being accused of degrading Mr. Obama yet they were allowed to make a statement about an eligible President who served our country with much passion and patriotism…. the best he knew how! It made me wonder…who is really doing the degrading??? What I and many other Americans want to know are just plain and simple facts….. In no way am I degrading the man here but asking that he be honest with us and that the Constitution of the United States of America be upheld. How is that degrading and why is it so difficult for Mr. Obama to accommodate our request??
As one of many concerned citizens and Patriots, our mission for the truth will not end when Mr. Obama swears on a bible. The evidence is out there and it will come to light one way or another. In the meantime……The dangers to our nation and our families which Mr. Obama has put forth by being a USURPER are quite frightening and certainly very upsetting. Frankly, Mr. Obama’s statements of uniting America were nothing more than a “smoke screen” and words on a teleprompter. Shunning his challengers and hiding all his critical documents from public scrutiny for months on end has served no purpose except to divide our nation….one family at a time…and yes, divided we fall!!!
If you are an Obama fan out there and want to take this request for truth as degrading the man then so be it….. I guess that would be your opinion and freedom of speech. Just know though that there are many apprehensive Americans out here who want what is best for our country. We shall not be bullied into silence!! That being said….. It is up to Mr. Obama to earn our respect by following the Christian values and laws set forth by the framers of the Constitution of the United States of America. I will continue to fight for my country and the rights of our unborn and in the process will pray for those who have lost sight of how this great nation got its start!
IN GOD WE TRUST AND IN GOD WE SHALL BE SAVED!
Jackie
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LETTER TO EDITOR: Supreme Court accountability
Saturday, January 17, 2009
ASSOCIATED PRESS President-elect Barack Obama was born under the jurisdiction of a foreign power, Britain, and is therefore ineligible to serve as president of the United States, according to a lawsuit that has reached the Supreme Court.
I stand amazed at what I am witnessing in our constitutional republic. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Constitution the rule of law in this nation? Don’t Supreme Court judges take oaths promising to protect and uphold that Constitution from foreign and domestic enemies? If our laws are derived from this text, then what is it called when those laws are ignored? It is called, “breaking the law.”
Our Constitution lays down the eligibility requirements for presidents. One requirement states that the president of the United States must be a natural-born citizen. Now, any reasonable thinking person knows citizenship is proven by one’s birth certificate.
President-elect Barack Obama’s presentation of a Certification of Live Birth certified that he was born alive but not that he was born in Hawaii. So we have rumors of a Kenyan birth. How do you get to the bottom of rumors? You inquire and investigate.
Our Supreme Court judges are required to uphold our law and get to the bottom of this unnecessary upheaval that Mr. Obama has hurled America into. What’s so hard about producing a real birth certificate? He is challenging our rule of law by refusing to prove his natural-born citizenship and is, therefore, undermining the foundation of our nation.
If our Supreme Court justices continue to deny “hearing” the many lawsuits that they are being presented with concerning Mr. Obama’s citizenship, then they are failing to do their jobs. The law states eligibility through natural-born citizenship is required. It is the court’s duty to get to the bottom of this and hold Mr. Obama accountable to the law.
LONNIE LECZO
Louisville, Ky.
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FOLKS>>>>>>>THESE ARE THE FACTS!!!!!!!
The COLB (presented on the internet) is prima facie evidence only if it is unaltered and the redacted certificate number means it has been altered and is therefore NOT EVIDENCIARY!
We do not know absolutely that the Supreme Court is choosing to do nothing. They may be waiting for the best time and the best case. There are however a myriad of others who have not kept their oath of office including every single elector, all Senators and Congressmen, the Secretaries of state and state election certifiers, and the state Governors.
The simple fact is that Obama has not established the date, time or place of his birth with any supporting documentation that carries any significant legal weight. The clumsy forgery posted on the Obama web site and “verified” by the “non-partisan” FactCheck.org would not even get you a driver’s license in the state of Hawaii. If that document was presented in a court of law, it would be more likely to get you a jail term.
There will always be some Obama disciples who will support the man regardless of what the facts show. If these unquestioning adorers of Mr. Obama took a minute or two to exercise some common sense and basic critical thinking, they would wonder, as many of us do, why Obama has sealed virtually all of his personal records from public scrutiny. College records (grades, transcripts, theses, financial aid forms), Illinois Senate records (his voting record, even his calendar), his legal clients’ list – all have been removed, destroyed, sealed or otherwise made unavailable to the general public and the media alike.
Even die-hard supporters of Obama might wonder how he managed to travel to Pakistan in 1981 during a time when our State Department forbade American citizens to travel to that country. They might even wonder how in the world Obama managed to raise such a huge amount of money during his campaign, a suspiciously large percentage of which came from sources outside the United States. On the other hand, many Obama fans don’t seem inclined to actually think for themselves and check the facts when simply repeating the Obama-approved talking points and tossing out the requisite ad hominem attacks is so much easier. Our Constitution guarantees each of us the right to vote, even those of us who have no respect for that Constitution. What a shame!
Ali….
I have searched for Obama and found Stanley Ann but no passports….searched soetoro and sortoro..
Searched Dunham found her dad, mom, her and barack but no passports…
What I find very funny is I found my grandma and grandpa who came over from Italy which actually showed the document in handwritting but I cant find anything on Stanley Ann!
Please give some first names with Payne…Stanley, ann ect…
I heard she has used the name Kelly, sandra, susan, stephen and scott also…Yep she used 2 male names..So the more info you can give me the better…
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I hope this little journey on the train is coming out of the 150 million already borrowed cause from the looks of it…It’s also costing a pretty penny!
Ali, thank you for the compliment. But I have no idea where BO was born. This is why I fashioned the military Complaint the way I did, asking the Court for Declarative Relief using 3 different scenarios. And I intentionally omitted any ‘proof’ of where he was born, or the circumstances of his birth. That’s why I only argued that Plaintiffs have a good faith belief he is not a NBC. And the FACTS I put together came mostly from BO; and his agents, including Annenberg Political FactCheck. (Thank you, Ali, for using Annenberg with FactCheck.) They evidence why Plaintiffs are confused. And that’s why I included the FACTS that members of Congress told concerned constituents he was a NBC based on the word of FactCheck (sic) which, not surprisingly, they failed to identify as Annenberg Political FactCheck or, linked to BO as his former employer. Because Plaintiffs know the only verification that BO is a NBC has come from BO and his agents. And now they know, even Congress failed to grasp this collusion. Thus, they have a good faith belief he is not a NBC.
I drafted this Complaint with the understanding Orly would file this before the Congressional Certification of the EC vote but, she is too busy now. So, I posted this on the web, hoping someone would take advantage of this.
What I ‘know’ and what can be proven in a court of law are two separate things. I know I can prove the allegation that is the basis for this Complaint. Of course, once the Complaint is filed, BO has 20 days to respond. And if he opposes this Complaint like he has done all of the others then, Plaintiffs win, anyway. Because it’s one thing to correctly point out to Plaintiff Phil Berg ‘I don’t have to prove to you that I am a NBC because you have no legal standing to ask’; but it’s another thing to use that same tone with military Plaintiffs sworn to fight and die for their Constitution.
See what I mean?
Ali…
I found a Frances Ann Payne dob 11/8/41
going to Keyna date of arrival 5/13/61
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=785
Urgent – ATTORNEY NEEDED IMMEDIATELY, PRO BONO, to file a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
Posted on January 17th, 2009 by David Crockett
Ms. Cris Ericson in a comment on this site published the following request for assistance. Please spread this message as wide as any way possible.
ATTORNEY NEEDED IMMEDIATELY, PRO BONO, to file a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST the
UNITED STATES CONGRESS for FRAUD IN A FIDUCIARY CAPACITY AGAINST TAXPAYERS for FAILURE to to do their DUTY to FIRST SUBPOENA BARACK OBAMA’S ORIGINAL LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE BEFORE CERTIFYING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES, and for not doing their duty at all to subpoena his original long form birth certificate, which is fraud in a fiduciary capacity against taxpayers who had a reasonable expectation and a CONSITUTIONAL RIGHT to have material facts to be certain that the Electoral College Vote is not a product of breach of informed consent and a fraudulent conveyance.
LEGAL STANDING FOR TAXPAYERS AND REGISTERED VOTERS:
28 USCS Section 1491 UNITED STATES COURT OF FEDERAL CLAIMS
FEDERAL RULES OF EVIDENCE: RULE 803 (8),(11),(12),(13),(16),(19),(23)Public Records for Birth Certificates.
FEDERAL RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE: Rule 12; Rule 19 JOIN ALL PLAINTIFFS IN ALL ACTIONS CURRENTLY IN STATE AND FEDERAL COURTS, INCLUDING ACTIONS CURRENTLY BEFORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT because it saves all Courts time and money to JOIN all plaintiffs into one action, and because a Class Action Lawsuit, once file, preempts and trumps all other cases where plaintiffs seek Barack Obama’s original long form birth certificate.
Rule 23 CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT puts an end to all other lawsuits seeking the same legal remedy.
Please can we stop calling Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg “lil lady” and “the gal”, and call her Justice Ginsberg?
jbjd: imho, it was deliberate obfuscation. But that’s just my opinion. Based upon logic and a cartload of intuition.
American girl: I can’t speak authoritatively, but I had a relative who once worked in a vital statistics office. He said that basically a woman could name her child anything she wanted to. In the case of a illegitimate child, she could name him after the father, even if the father objected. Even if the man she named the child after WASN’T the father. My guess is that HER true name was on the BC, as the mother; but she could name a father or not, and give the kid whatever surname that she wanted to. It was all up to the mother. I believe, however, that if she was married, the husband was automatically listed as the legal father.
Janet: Yeah. I figured Dowd meant that BHO usurped Hillary’s place (which he did), but I still thought it was an interesting choice of words on her part. I bet she reads this blog. I actually can’t figure out if she likes BHO OR Hillary. But I know she loathes GWB.
Deborah: Good analogy by your husband. btw, I heard that that pilot is also an experienced glider pilot. I’m sure that paid off, big time. The skills he developed while piloting gliders helped him ditch that plane just so.
Perfect. Everything came together. It WAS truly a miracle. No doubt about it.
And let’s give GWB a tad of credit, because I’m sure that the first responders benefitted a lot from the training and the equipment that they’ve received from his administration since 9/11.
Ali (Alikat/Alleycat), Ancestry covers Canada, but my subscription is for US only.
I’ll see what I can find, and post here.
cajunpatriot @11:20am
Obama fingerprints? Naw, axel rod had them skin crafted long ago.
Blood sample from
Obama, not a chance. A black heart doe’s not pump blood, only evil runs through the vains of a black heart.
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American Girl-
What Text Do I Type to Make Smileys?
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Thank’s to itooktheredpill
SUCH MUCH NEEDED HUMOR:
Obama, his wife Michelle and Oprah Winfrey were flying on Obama’s private plane.
Obama looked at Oprah, chuckled and said, “You know, I could throw a $1, 000 bill out the window right now and make somebody very happy.”
Oprah shrugged her shoulders and replied, “I could throw ten $100 bills out the window and make ten people very happy.”
Michelle added, “That being the case, I could throw one hundred $10 bills out the window and make a hundred people very happy.”
Hearing their exchange, the pilot rolled his eyes and said to his co-pilot, “Such big-shots back there. I could throw all of their asses out the window and make 56 million people very happy!”
FeelingHoodwinked @ 3:12 pm on Jan 17 SAID:
“The inauguration has already started and it’s only Saturday…Biden and Barky sat down in their seats. They just swallowed. Oh my! They are breathing, too! In and out. In and out…”
Hilarious! My sentiments exactly!!!
JustinCredible, good for you. When I found out that Andy Martin went to HI to ask the Court to release BO’s BC, I contacted him. He intended to argue BO was now a public figure and so, HI public records laws regarding privacy and confidentiality should be innapplicable in this case. I argued that, he should pierce the record holder’s right to privacy by raising an estoppel argument. That is, BO posted a document on the internet that he identified on that site was his “Official Birth Certificate.” Further, he represented to American voters, this proved, he is a “native citizen.” He should not get to benefit from posting this duplicate to establish the facts alleged and yet be entitled to privacy regarding the original certification when those voters want to confirm, he is telling the truth.
But he did not listen.
Ox, BO could argue, he considered not going but, did not want to upset the man who would be hearing his case. And, since he gave up his license to practice, he is no longer an officer of the court; he not only does not have to report his impropriety but also cannot seek an advisory opinion from the IL bar as to the propriety of such a meeting. But you are right; he isn’t smart enough to think about these issues, anyway. Some time ago, I posted an essay on my blog entitled, “If You Think Barack Obama is so Smart, Prove It.”
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/if-you-think-barack-obama-is-so-smart-prove-it/
Schwarzenegger Has Lawyers on Capital Hill Pushing Obama Citizenship Case Forward
image Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger reportedly has lawyers on Capital Hill pushing the Obama citizenship case forward towards a precedent setting change in the Constitution. Unlike right wing Republicans, Schwarzenegger wants Obama to ultimately be victorious in front of the Supreme Court if they should choose to hear a case questioning whether or not Barack Obama can be sworn in even though he may have been technically born in Kenya before being certified as a citizen in Hawaii.
The Gubbernator sees common cause (temporarily) with those that would keep Obama from taking office, hoping that the question of fact in Obama’s birth will be admitted and that he will be allowed to be sworn in anyway.
That would create the legal precedent allowing a person not Natural Born in America to run for President. Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to be that next President and with Palin and Huckabee currently polling in the lead for the Republican nomination, Arnold could knock them out like an extra pointing a gun at him in a cheap action thriller.
So the question is, what exactly are Arnold’s lawyers doing in Washington????
Well, that’s where things get interesting. Apparently, they are seeking out a key witness in the Obama case. There are two issues at play. One is a question of fact, was Obama born in Kenya. The other is a question of Constitutional crisis. Can a person born in Kenya and elected by the electoral college serve as President or will he have to relinquish the job to Joseph Biden.
It would appear that there is only one person that can answer the first question. The Doctor that presided over the birth herself. Dr. Sarah C. Wiggenstein is the person that everyone is searching for. Apparently Dr. Wiggenstein retired from medical practice 6 years ago and moved to the Cayman islands after her husband Ruford Wiggenstein passed away.
Attorneys have been working with Sarah’s only surviving son, John J. C. Wiggenstein to track down the retiree, who apparently has been out of contact with everyone these last 4 years since her move.
John Wiggenstein is a former commando who served in the Special Forces in Somalia in 1993. Its ironic that Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Presidential chances might rely on a real life commando, who was also awarded the Bronze Star for his work helping to rescue Rangers pinned down in Mogadishu.
Possibly even more ironic, John’s grandfather, Gerald Connors, was one of the original judges in the first Mr. Universe pageant in 1948. So it remains to be seen whether or not, Sarah C. Wiggenstein will come forth to testify in this matter or not.
Her son John, and the rest of the world will stand by and wait to see if Barack Obama might have to face off against Arnold in 2012.
http://www.viralgrapevine.com/schwarzenegger-has-lawyers-on-capital-hill-pushing-obama-citizenship-case-forward/
Kay,Ali, Screen shoot it fast,and send to TD ASAP- You are soooo coooool !
T J: Very funny. Sarah Conners Wiggenstein? I don’t think so.
Hi Kay: Kay, can you find anything in Canada regarding “Ann Dunham”; “Ann Obama”; “A Dunham”; “A Obama”; “S Obama”; “S Dunham”; “A Payne”; “Ann Payne”; and so forth — I’m not sure as to how exact one needs to be with Ancestry program.
Also, did you find anything with her parents names in Canada?
Regarding that Frances Ann Payne you found — that is oddly coincidental isn’t it? From where was her departure in the U.S.? Does it show a residential address for her at the time?
I really want to know if you can find any Canadian addresses for Ann. I thought someone on the board mentioned relatives in Canada? I’m not sure.
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jbjd: Sounds like a great complaint you’ve drafted!
I’m starting to suffer pangs of guilt — I know you guys are going to kick me lol, but are we doing the “right thing”? Yes, I know, I love our Constitution, and I don’t want to lose it.
WTF!!! It should have been criminal to hang this in the first place. Now they are disgusting enough to try and auction it off for profit. And Someone is actually wanting to pay $1,000. for this garbage!?!?!?!?! Obamatrons are sick, sick, sick!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sarah-Palin-Mannequin-Effigy-Halloween-McCain-head_W0QQitemZ330300536294QQihZ014QQcategoryZ39723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Okay, I snapped out of it after reading some more posts!
I’m much better now
jbjd: Are you saying that your case is ready to go? I thought I read, @ one week ago, that you had acquired, through Orly, a Plaintiff for your case? Can you not file it without Orly (I only ask because you said she is too swamped at the moment)?
CalifGirlInMaine and Kay: Can you guys post anything you find on TD’s newest thread? I lucked out as my computer just loaded this thread, but that is not always the case when threads are so long.
Kay: Renee wants you to screenshot that Frances Ann Payne to Kenya page. I guess she would also want all the info possible on Frances — I would be surprised if it were Ann D. O. but it is terribly coincidental — unless O had his paid minions tamper with the records (but wouldn’t he just have it totally removed?). So is this Frances Ann Payne traveling with B*, H*, or O* Payne?
I’m still wondering about Canada.
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This looks like a setup of O’s. Whether he chooses this woman or someone else, I’m sure his team is going to create a solid (but fictional) backstory for his phony hawaiian birth. This and any other doctor he pulls out of his hat will be a fraud just like he is!
TJ: I’m going to post this to you on each thread so I can be sure you and others see it.
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On to TD’s newest thread …
jbjd: What about Berg? I know he is probably swamped as well, but he could probably recommend someone to file it for you. Or what about Steve Pidgeon?
I’d also suggest Leo, but I don’t know if he’s willing to get back in the game — it wouldn’t hurt to ask him though. Maybe he’ll file it for you. I hope so.
Okay, I’m going to try to catch up on the Widget thread and then I’m on to TD’s newest thread.
Responses to TD’s newest thread …
Thanks Leza & Itooktheredpill for the “smiley info”…love those little guys…..:smile:
InPalinWeTrust –
– absolutely, a much needed bit of humor…..
Miri – and these facts make what you all digging have been able to do, even more remarkable….thanks for taking the time to explain.
Deborah – Your husband’s insight on the reason for the pilot’s success being experience – IMO, will be remembered over these coming years…..the irony of being shown the benefit of experience compared to the tragedy of having none…..
jbjd – I’m praying this military complaint will be successful in achieving what we all are hoping for at this point….still no reply from Inhofe, maybe he’s somewhere w/ Alito throwing up??……
Ali..Renee..
I need an email addy to send..or I can upload it to photobucket that word work too I think..
I’ll see if it works….
It wouldnt let me screen shoot it but..I did get to save it and paste it to word document….
The names you gave me above I have already checked but unchecked on the exact box….so it would give me several to look thru…
I want to give one of you trustworthy “gals” my password to ancestrey and let you go crazy! LOL