TD NOTE 1/8/09: See Dr. Kate’s Update at the end regarding the Washington Prayer Journal.
By Dr. Kate, Guest Author
© 2009 Dr. Kate
Exclusive for TD Blog
(Author’s note. Hat tip to ‘don’ttrampleonmyflag’ for posting the George Washington piece, and to TD’s readers for inspiring yet another post for the love of my Country)
George Washington saw this time period coming in a vision he had while at Mt. Vernon. The spirit who visited him finished by saying:
“Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful for her is the third. But the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and Union.”
With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been showed to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States. – from George Washington’s Prayer Journal
The three perils shown to George Washington were the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and a third “most fearful” time for the Republic. I believe we are on the precipice of that third period.
Remember what we have been through as a nation. Washington’s second vision of America’s destiny came this way:
“Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.”
And this time a dark shadowy angel turned his face southward. From Africa I saw an ill omened spectra approach our land. It flitted slowly and heavily over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued look I saw a bright angel on whose brow was traced the word ‘Union.’ He was bearing the American flag. He placed the flag between the divided nation and said, “Remember, ye are brethren.”
Instantly the inhabitants, casting down their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.
The Agonizing Week Ahead
As we enter this momentous week in what has seemed an eternity to the 2008 election, we must prepare on many levels for the disappointing level of commitment to the Constitution and lack of courage that Congress may will likely demonstrate on January 8th. We must also steel ourselves for the Supreme Court’s action or lack thereof, despite the promising signs of scheduled conferences for January 9th and 16th.
Let us take a moment to remember how we got to where we are now: largely through our own dedication to our Country, through the laser-like analyses of Judah Benjamin and TexasDarlin, and through our voracious appetite for the truth. There are many patriots here from all walks of life, from all political perspectives, from every culture and tradition.
In agonizingly brief summary:
**Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is not eligible to serve as the President of the United States because of his dual citizenship at birth and allegiance to the British Crown and Kenyan government inherited through his father. It does not matter where he was born, he is not a NBC because both of his parents were NOT US citizens.
**Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States because he was adopted by an Indonesian citizen and has not shown that he ever reclaimed his U.S. citizenship.
**Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama may be a U.S. citizen, but he is a naturalized U.S. citizen.
**There has been one Alinsky-style diversion after another that has been used to both mask what is going on behind the scenes, and to ‘throw us off the scent’. Everything from the birth certificate (which would in fact provide vital information and will be needed after all), to the Kenyan birth, to the marriage or non-marriage of his parents, to the scrubbing of any records, to the outright telling of lies by fabricating truths.
**The election was ‘fixed’ for Obama including the deliberate, willful, and dangerous allowing of a usurper to violate the constitution and seize the reigns of the U.S. government.
We are now faced with a Congress that is poised to empower a usurper, a Supreme Court that may or may not act, and the general public moving along as if everything was ‘hunky-dory’. We want someone in Congress to object, to make a “Point of Order”, on January 8th. The democrats want to push Obama down our throats; the republicans want this to ‘blow up in the democrats’ faces and ruin them for years’. Hey, what about ‘we the people’?
And in the greatest Alinsky-style diversion/distraction of all—the fuss about Barack Hussein Obama himself—the banking cartel (aka Federal Reserve) and its enablers in Congress took the last nickel and dime of every American’s savings, and printed money out of thin air to bail out everyone but the American taxpayer, all the while making money by charging interest on that ‘thin air’. But that is indeed another, and forthcoming, post.
Again I heard a mysterious voice saying,
“Son of the Republic, look and learn.”
At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia, and Africa.
Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these continents arose thick black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men. These men, moving with the cloud marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of the cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities, which I had seen spring up.
What do you think this means today?
Small Steps that Make Big Movements
It seems that the main focus ‘we the people’ have right now are small steps that we are all taking: writing to the Supreme Court, our representatives and Senators, Secretaries of States, and many, many letters to the editor. And of course we are talking and letting all who will listen, and then some, know. Individually it seems miniscule; collectively it becomes the awakening of the ‘sleeping giant’ of true American patriotism.
I wanted to pick up on the idea of a “Petition for Redress” to Congress which has been mentioned a few times in threads here at this site. Our Founding Fathers and early patriots started the revolution by endlessly petitioning King George for redress, to no avail. While ‘we the people’ have recourse under the First Amendment to petition congress for redress , it does not obligate Congress legally or morally to respond to ‘we the people’. Hence the many petitions for redress by the We the People Foundation and others regarding the 16th amendment, taxation, and the federal reserve have gone un-answered, and now the United States is going after the petitioner! Do you think ‘we the people’ are getting closer?
The ‘Petition for Redress” also has to happen after the ‘crime’ or injury to the people has been committed—in this case, after Congress fails to object to the Electoral College vote on January 8th. Ideally, such a petition should be filed immediately in the DC Federal district court, as well as all 50 states, although the attorneys out there might help us figure this out. Each member of Congress should receive the petition. The We the People Foundation had 50 people from each state hand deliver petitions for redress on taxes to each member of Congress and several executive offices.
As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I again heard the mysterious voice saying,
“Son of the Republic, look and learn.”
When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast. Instantly a light, as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments of the dark cloud, which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shown the word ‘Union,’ and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh over come, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks, and renewed battle.
Another declaration of independence, as is our right and burden as Americans?
A Petition for Redress: Can We Force Congress to Act Now?
I, like many of you, have written passionate and factual letters to our representatives, only to be rudely dismissed as a ‘conspiracy theorist’, ‘racist’, or threatened with FBI visits. Like many of you I am not going away no matter what happens on the 8th, 9th, 16th, or 20th of January.
What would happen if we also let them know in our letters that we all are not going away by including a ‘draft petition for redress’? Would it make any difference to them? Maybe or maybe not. But it would put them on notice that we are not going away and that these petitions could be easily filed in every state of the Country. I wonder if any one of these so-called representatives understands that willfully participating in an attempt to defraud the United States and the voting system is a criminal offense?
While I am an optimist at heart, I know that we are staring down the barrel of a gun right now. The peril we face may be that third vision of George Washington—the last and most dangerous for the Union.
Again amid the fearful voice of the conflict I heard the mysterious voice say,
“Son of the Republic, look and learn.”
As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped the water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark clouds rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious. Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seem them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard cried with a loud voice: “While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.”
DRAFT
PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES
REGARDING THE FAILURE OF THE U.S.CONGRESS TO ENSURE THE CONSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BEFORE CERTIFYING THE VOTES OF THE 2008 ELECTORAL COLLEGE
ON JANUARY 8, 2009INTRODUCTION
WHEREAS, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides, in part, that “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of…or the right of the people…to petition the government for a redress of grievances”, and
WHEREAS, this Petition for Redress is thusly submitted to Congress regarding the Congress’ certification of Electoral College votes on January 8, 2009,
WHEREAS, this petition asserts that Congress certified the Electoral College votes without performing due diligence on the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama, and thus failed to uphold their sworn duty to uphold the U.S. Constitution…
FACTS
WHEREAS, Article II of the United States Constitution specifies that “no person except a natural born citizen….shall be eligible to hold the office of the President of the United States”, and
WHEREAS, the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement has been interpreted to require birth in the United States or its territories and to two American citizens, and
WHEREAS, the 14th Amendment to the Constitution does not confer the ‘natural born citizen’ title on naturalized U.S. citizens, and
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama admits his father was a Kenyan National, and that at birth Mr. Obama was born of first allegiance to the British Crown, through the citizenship of his father under the British Nationality Act of 1948, and
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama admits he was adopted by an Indonesian National named Lolo Soetoro and evidence exists that Mr. Obama used the legal name “Barry Soetoro”, and
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama admits he is a ‘native’ born U.S. Citizen under the 14th Amendment;
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama signed notarized documents regarding his eligibility to serve as President under the U.S. Constitution, including sworn statements of his ‘natural born’ citizenship;
WHEREAS, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi verbally and in written form certified to State Secretaries of States that Barack Hussein Obama was indeed eligible under the U.S. Constitution to serve as President without having seen key documentation, and
WHEREAS, to date no legal authority has verified that Barack Hussein Obama is a ‘natural born citizen’ as required by Article II of the United States Constitution, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Obama has sealed all of his records and expended nearly one million dollars in defending his right NOT to show that he is a natural born citizen and thus eligible to serve as President, and
WHEREAS, despite this information that strongly suggests Mr. Obama is ineligible for the Presidency, and despite their oath to uphold the Constitution, their privilege to raise a Point of Order, no member of the Congress raised an objection or Point of Order in Congress on January 8th 2009, on the reading of each State’s electoral certificates of the total vote for Barack Hussein Obama II ( 3 U.S.C. Ch. 1, §15, §17, §19(a) (1), and §19), nor when the President of the Senate called for objections, and
WHEREAS, while every member of Congress has an affirmative duty to ensure the protection of the U.S. Constitution, Congress willfully ignored the disqualifying information, the danger to our Constitution, the Country, and the Citizenry, and nevertheless certified the Electoral College vote for Mr. Obama;
WHEREAS, Congress has violated the trust of the people by failing to conduct due diligence and verify the eligibility of Mr. Obama thereby endangering the Citizenry by precipitating a constitutional crisis.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT,
WE, the undersigned, do petition Congress for relief and redress in the following manner:
1. Verify beyond any doubt that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen under Article II of the U.S. Constitution, specifically by refuting or affirming the following:
a. Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II is not qualified to serve as President because he is not a natural born citizen as required by Article II, Section I of the Constitution, having “Foreign Allegiances” at birth and by adoption, by renouncing US citizenship, and by failing to provide unambiguous evidence that he is “a natural born Citizen” without other allegiance. In particular:
i. Mr. Obama had first allegiance to the British Crown and to Kenya, being born a British Citizen under the British Nationality Act of 1948 and then a citizen of Kenya through his Kenyan birth father Barack Obama, Sr.
ii. Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Barack Obama, also has primary allegiance to Indonesia, having Indonesian citizenship by adoption Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, a citizen of Indonesia. By Constitution of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958, Art. 2 (1), and as required to enroll in Indonesian schools. As evidenced by school records and travel to Pakistan in 1981, Mr. Obama retains his Indonesian citizenship.
b. Mr. Obama has failed to produce unambiguous evidence that he is a “natural born Citizen” born to two U.S. citizens “in the allegiance of the United States” and that he has retained that exclusive allegiance to the United States.
2. De-certify the January 8th Electoral College vote if Mr. Obama is found ineligible through Congressional examination;
3. Invoke the 20th Amendment to appoint an ‘Acting President’ until Congress can agree upon a process to provide an eligible President;
4. Seek whatever guidance is needed from the U.S. Supreme Court.
5. Develop federal regulations and procedures to ensure that Presidential Candidates are natural born citizens and fully vetted for their eligibility to serve.
Submitted on this 9th day of January, 2009 by
ONE BRAVE PATRIOTIC ATTORNEY
Representing 50 courageous patriotic plaintiffs
From all 50 States in the Union
Or by thousands of individuals
UPDATE 1/8/09 1:00 PM
By Dr. Kate
A few readers have questioned the authenticity of the Washington Prayer Journal, and specifically this
story, so I did additional research to confirm my sources, and offer the following:
First, that George Washington wrote a prayer journal is easily verified by looking here, a site of the original source documents of the United States. Notice the journal ends abruptly in the middle of his “Thursday Morning” prayer journal. It is suggested by Prophetic Round Table Ministries cited in this article, that the vision happened during this time period. Moreover, this site reports results of investigations that lead to several early publications of Washington ’s Vision, including an 1864 pamphlet that can be viewed here courtesy of Indiana University (the vision begins on page 11).
One snippet from this article states that “a Mormon periodical carried the account in 1856.” Regarding the Mormon angle, mentioned in a comment below, a starting point for research there is the Mormon Archives “Our Heritage” project, which contains volumes of original documents, newspapers, reports, and of course, spiritual interpretations and descriptions of the character of the men who were our Founding Fathers.
The earliest publication of “ Washington ’s Vision” appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer on June 24, 1861, followed by a December publication in the Pittsfield Gazette, and in April 1862 in the New Hampshire Sentinel. It is difficult not to see how “ Washington ’s Vision” was extremely relevant in 1861. Although the story is passed on through generations, the basic elements are the same. Two of Washington ’s three visions have been realized. My article suggests that this time may be the period of Washington ’s third vision, or we may be already there. And, maybe not. But our anguished, passionate, concerned ‘fighting’ against all odds, the struggle against the tyranny of the government and violation of the Constitution, understanding the divine inspiration that created our Constitution, and defending our rights as the Citizenry, sounds and feels awfully familiar to me. A little divine intervention would be extremely helpful right now!



I think this is worth a look. What do you think?
8 USCS Section 1229b.(a)(2)
Attorney General may cancel removal of Alien
if alien has resided in U.S. continuously
for 7 years after having been admitted
in any status, and (3) has not been convicted
of any aggravated felony, (b)(A) has
been physically present in U.S. for a continuous
period of not less than 10 years (D) Alien’s
spouse and children are U.S. Citizens.
QUESTION: HAS BARACK OBAMA ALREADY BEEN THE
SUBJECT OF AN ALIEN REMOVAL PROCEEDING?
ON THE “CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH”
shown around the internet it shows
that it was altered in November 2001,
and that could have been after a hearing
under 8 USCS Section 1229a
The “Certification of Live Birth”
shown around the internet has a legal notice
in the lower right hand corner:
[HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]
338-13(b) is subject to the requirements of
338-16, 338-17, and 338-18
338-16 is a birth certificate registered
one year or more after birth which
has been altered after being filed,
it shall contain the date of late filing
and the date of alteration.
On the “Certification of Late Birth”
it shows November 2001 which is a date of Revision
or alteration!
338-17 the probative value of a “late”
or “altered” certificate shall be
determined by the judicial or administrative
body or official before whom the
certificate is offered as evidence.
338-18 it shall be unlawful for any person
to permit inspection of information in vital
statistics records (b) unless it is
satisfied that he applicant has a direct
and tangible interest (VOTERS DO!)
Also, please note again, that the legal
notice in the lower right hand corner of the
“Certification of Live Birth” going around
the internet includs 338-19
which authorizes the department of health
to prepare copies of records which by
reason of age, usage, or otherwise,
are in such condition that they can no
longer be used to certify to the
correctness of such copies; so
that should be prima facie evidence,
that if the Certificate is “real”
then it is really legally notifying us
that it cannot be used to certify
its own correctness!
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov
HRS 338-13, HRS 338-16, HRS 338-17, HRS 338-18
HRS 338-19 Hawaii Revised Statutes
Td, do you have a e-mail that I can contact you by. I have a question, but I don’t want it in a blog. thx
TD REPLY: Sorry, I don’t email, but you can send me a message by putting “Don’t Publish” at the top of the comment. Thanks.
Why is obama getting away with not having to prove his citizenship? This alone will hurt this country…someone will speak up when they are thrown under the bus. We really know nothing about this couple. Nothing about his University grades…life. We do know that he has connections with terrorist people…angry black pastors…and other people we would not be associating with. So why is he going to be sworn in as our president? Why does no one care? Why isn’t someone trying to stop all this?
Gotta say Dr. Kate, this is an AMAZING piece! I posted links on every blog I frequent!
The inclusion of George Washington’s vision was chilling!!! I personally believe his vision WAS prophetic and WAS speaking of our time and this particular crisis!
Thank you!
Typically complete dr kate analysis, along with a very precise petition.
I am 100% behind every movement that brings to the forefront any disparagment of our Constitutional system.
The awareness of the general population of the ineligability of Obama is bringing the subject out of the shadows. The Messiah movement is gettin painted into a corner, and I am convinced that the truth will be exposed.
What drives me futher, is the defacto education every one who is driving this movement is getting and giving.
The assault on the Constitution goes back to the year it was enacted. Small inroads and large, outright thefts, of our original rights and responsibilities over the last 200+ years, have brought us to a crossroads. That crossroads has a yellow flashing light, the caution we must excersize, is HOW we move forward, not IF.
The most permanent affect of all this , is what we were charged with by the Founding Fathers….eternal vigilance. Students of history, politics and government throughout the ages , have preached the need for the free to peer each day, over the horizon, so tyranny cannot sneak back disguised as improvement.
Complacency is something that we teach our children to not accept. I challenge everyone that, once a Government meets the meager, simple constraints of the Constitution, we as a people should be complacent with it. There is no better system . Changing our culture to fit a group or groups, who emmigrated here in the 1st place to enjoy our freedoms, is a recipe for disaster.
Let them assimilate to us, they do not come here to be accomodating to people who came here looking for what we have.
The enemy is not moving here, it is here. Its us, its them, The mechanism of our demise is the tools of our success.
Hopefully, rightousness will prevail in this immediate crisis. But, if it doesn’t, Hope may be lost, but faith remains vigilante.
Many blogs dedicated to the election did a wonderful job of getting out the facts, but, upon the voting of Nov 4, closed up shop in defeat.
Not here, TD, drkate, Judah, and a whole host of others keep the drive alive. More people everyday join in, either silently, or contributng insular facts that reignite the fervor.
Let us not , ever again, drop our vigilance. Lets us strive even more ardently for the government Of the people , For the people, and By the people( psssst….. thats US.)
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy
at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst
those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of
government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he
wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city,
he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the
plague.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero (Ancient Roman Lawyer, Writer, Scholar, Orator and Statesman)
Katie Bar The Door-
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/executedsandralinesdeclaration_1.pdf
O/T, about the Weblog Awards:
I am receiving messages and comments asking me to publicly endorse certain blogs, but because I have multiple friends in some categories, I’ve decided to not publicly endorse.
There are two exceptions for friends of mine:
1. Uppity Woman for Best New Blog. She’s a loyal fellow PUMA with a creative and intelligent blog.
And
2. Atlas Shrugs for Best Conservative Blog. Pamela is the hardest working blogger I know; her stuff is original and brave. As is she.
I’m pleased to publicly endorse Uppity and Atlas. You’ll find links to their excellent blogs in the roll to the right.
I will not publish any other Weblog endorsements. Consider me neutral on the other categories.
Wow, wonderful post, but it just makes me more terrified knowing what is before this country.
In addition to Washington’s visions, I am also reminded of the vision of Nostradamus, who predicted the 3rd evil ….something like this… hailing from greater Arabia, follower of Mohammed, and wearing a blue turban.
Obama is more Arab American than he is Afriacan American.
Obama is known to have been Muslim at some point in his life, like when he went to school in jakarta.
And…the blue turban. Most curious of all. We have seen pics of Obama with a turban. And the Democratic color is BLUE. Coincidence?
All of this gives me the heebie jeebies. Paranoid?
Nostradamus predicted the 3rd evil would bring “horror”.
I am scared.
drkate: As usual, a fabulous, inspiring post. Thank you for your wisdom and for taking the time to write this piece.
ForMySons: Thanks. Without a doubt, Cicero was a genius.
TD, Words do not suffice to express the degree of appreciation and respect you and the posters of this site deserve. You all embody the very concept of patriotism, courage and brilliance and, like our forefathers and mothers, your willingness to stand up for our nation and its laws is a power of example.
Together we can win this. Our country and our lives depend on it.
So many humble thanks to you, kate, judah, and all the others who continue to work for truth.
Your “PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES” is superb. Where do I sign?
I’m almost despondent as I come to the realization that our justice system has morphed into a legal system and that, with their own rules are willing to suspend the Constitution.
s/ Texan in Exile
Dr. Kate, that “George Washington’s Vision” tale is a hoax (http://www.snopes.com/language/document/vision.asp) by a journalist and sock puppet (Alexander wrote under the pseudonym Bradshaw and as Alexander praised Bradshaw’s work).
decentAmerican, I wouldn’t lose sleep worrying about Nostradamus.
keep up the good fight dr kate.
our forefathers did.nt and we must continue..
GOD BLESS AMERICA
katie bar the door: if your information is correct, it’s quite interesting.
btw, why the heck is Biden going to Pakistan?
gmanedit. I heard this and researched it. No it is not a hoax or I never would have used it. It was told to a writer and has been verified by several independent sources. Thanks
dear gmanedit —
I presume you would have told all the Jews to “not lose sleep” before Nostradumus’ prediction of the 2nd evil came to power?
Did all those Germans know at the time what type of evil they were voting for, when the fuhrer won the election there by a landslide?
More like factcheck, snopes itself is a hoax. It’s set on the premise that a few truths justify a whole bunch o’ lies.
Do your own independent research. And remember, old printed words are worth a lot more than fly-by-night web info.
Keep up the good fight.
God bless.
Wells
I would add that since neither factcheck nor snopes allows ANY open dispute of their “proclamations” that’s definitive verification of their lack of validity. At least with wikipedia, another fly-by-night web source, you can see the history of “who” has changed what, when, and hopefully why. In the case of wikipedia, it’s an outnumbering game of defiance on matters of historical rewrites or desired emPHAses. For example, the “facts” on the definition of “natural born” change by the minute depending upon how many bots are a-hauntin’.
The “blue turban” reference could be the UN military that wears blue helmets. Obama has been talking to them about the US joining.
Dr. Kate, TD, (and many more here), you take my breath away! Thanks so much for your hard work. I’m right there to sign the petition.
Decent American: I just dusted my copy of Nostradamus prediction tape off and watched it last week. Scary stuff. it’s hard to decipher, but an interesting watch. I needed a strong one after that!
I keep thinking that surely our elected officials and supreme court can’t let this one slip by unnoticed. Surely they will do something soon, before it is too late. I sure hope so. (p.s. Not just sitting on my Laurels — I have just sent letters to SC and my state reps and senators).
Dr Kate, What independent sources? Allusion to this kind of “fiction” weakens your otherwise reasonable arguments.
This is one quote I have found that suggests that this is in fact more of a fable than an actual recounting of an experience:
Washington’s Vision
In the National Tribune, 1880, an article appeared giving an account of the “Vision of Washington” at Valley Forge. The account was told by a gentleman named Anthony Sherman, who supposedly was at Valley Forge during the winter of 1777-78. The story has been published several times.
Some people will say that it is substantiated by the fact that a copy of the account is in the Library of Congress. This argument of authenticity is misleading in and of itself. The Library of Congress has copies of anything published. That does not indicate accuracy of the content.
I am unaware of any eighteenth-century evidence that corroborates this story. The soldier mentioned as having a first-hand account of the “Vision,” Anthony Sherman, was a soldier in the Continental Army. However, according to his pension application, written by him, he states that he was at Saratoga under the command of Benedict Arnold at the end of 1777 and only joined the main forces in 1778 in New Jersey just before the Battle of Monmouth.
Me again. I have no idea if this is true or not, but I do feel it distracts from the serious nature of the post, and makes it look a bit flaky. That goes for Nostradamus and the “anti-Christ” nonsense as well.
Dr. Kate, those visions of Washington are absolutely chilling. I have no idea what the 3rd one is referring to, unless it’s talking about some kind of alien invasion/usurpation.
Who is considering the Petition to Redress exactly, and where is it sent the SCOTUS or the Congress itself?
drkate,
You should do some research into Washington’s religious background and his practices and beliefs. He was an Anglican/Episcopalian, but didn’t take communion, and was more casual about religion than most, with possible leanings toward Deism rather than Christianity. Of course, you can search Washington’s papers for any references to “Jesus” or “Christ” or “angel” here:
http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/project/search.html
This presents two possibilities: a vision from God that Washington never wrote down in his journals or papers, and yet is carefully and meticulously preserved until it finally sees the light of day sixty years after his death, or a fictionalized entry cut from whole cloth, starring a man who didn’t serve with Washington where he supposedly had the vision. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but Occam’s Razor cuts off a mighty thin slice of that.
http://www.ushistory.org/valleyforge/washington/vision.html
“Anthony Sherman, was a soldier in the Continental Army. However, according to his pension application, written by him, he states that he was at Saratoga under the command of Benedict Arnold at the end of 1777 and only joined the main forces in 1778 in New Jersey just before the Battle of Monmouth.”
So, according to his own pension application, Anthony Sherman, the alleged teller of the story, was never at Valley Forge and didn’t meet up with Washington’s forces until they were in New Jersey. Is that better research than Snopes?
I really, really hate to sound crusty here, but this is stuff you can find in ten minutes or less with Google.
TD REPLY: Actually, you LOVE to sound “crusty,” seems to me.
We are living in times that will go down in history…and TD, Judah and Dr. Kate are writing it eloquently.
Heard on KMJ Radio today a guest called George Solenti (sp?) who was a marvelous speaker. He worked for politicians in his early career for six years, which have resulted in him now becoming a “political atheist”. One remark he made still resonates. He said he got to know Sen. John Connolly (the one in the car with Pres. Kennedy when he was assassinated) and Connolly told him if the American people knew what was going on in Washington D.C., there would be another revolution…and that was back in the 60’s.
I cannot get on theobamafile.com nor obamacrimes.com
Anyone else?
MESSAGE TO EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS:
When counting the electoral votes, either Congress finds by 1/8/09 that Obama — not being an Article II “natural born citizen” (father Kenyan/British, not American, citizen) — fails to qualify as President whereupon Biden becomes the full fledged President under 3 USC 19 (free to pick his own VP such as Hillary) or thereafter defers to the Supreme Court to enjoin Obama’s inauguration with Biden becoming only Acting President under the 20th Amendment until a new President is duly determined.
The preferable choice, at least for the Democrats, should seem obvious.
SPECIAL AUDIO LINK MESSAGE TO JOHN MCCAIN:
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=691
Kate,
Superb!!!!! I am not an authority on the authenticity of the “vision” nor do I do care to challenge Snopes , I only know what the founding fathers endured to create this great Democracyand I will at all costs preserve, defend and
protect the constitution, as so many of us are willing to do .I await the Friday conference but with reservations that the outcome will be favorable.Let us all prepare for Phase 2
Off topic why did Steven Good commit suicide? and why is the discussion forum on the Trib website disabled? Not to be repeatitive but Fitzgerald request a 90 day extension to “perfect” his indictment on Blago and Co and now releases actual names by accident ? shows either his incompetence as a prosecutor , or takes his direction from higher ups( I suspect the latter ,rather than the former) What a tragedy. All that the founders struggled and sacrificed for a democracy has been lost . Keep up the endeavor and let us all know how we can partner with you to give America back to the real Americans ! I support “Real Change “not cheap rhetoric that sounds good on the campaign trail. I do support B Hussein Obama’s policy for change in Gov’t but only as it applies to WELFARE but I shall save those remarks for another time and let AARP pick up ther big ball and run with it for now
I look forward to your next writing.
God Bless You and God Bless America.
fyi…..I just got this via email….
Wednesday, January 7, 2009
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Roberts agreed to hear my case
Press Release from Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ 01.07.09.
Good news,
Chief Justice John Roberts agreed to hear my case Lightfoot v Bowen, challenging eligibility for presidency of Barack Hussein Obama. He distributed the case to the full conference of the Supreme Court. The timing of this decision by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, is absolutely remarkable. On January 7, one day before the January 8 vote by Congress and Senate, whether to approve or object to the electoral vote of Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, as president of the United States, Chief Justice Roberts is sending a message to them: “Hold on, not so fast, there is value in this case, read it. Hawaiian statue 338 allows Foreign Born children of Hawaiian Residents to obtain Hawaiian Birth Certificates, it allows one to get Hawaiian Certification of Life birth based on a statement of one relative only, without any corroborating evidence. You need to investigate, you need corroborating evidence. If only one Congressman or one Senator presents a written objection, then there has to be a formal investigation by the joint session of Congress and Senate. During this investigation original birth certificate from Hawaii will be subpoenaed. All other pertinent documents will be subpoenaed: Obama’s immigration records, any and all passports from Indonesia, Kenya and Great Britain; University enrollment records, showing if he was enrolled in US schools and universities and received financial aid as a foreign exchange student from Indonesia or Kenya. All of it can be subpoenaed and obtained within a day or two. Each and every member of US Congress and Senate owes it to 320 million American citizens to do his due diligence and demand all necessary records. When American servicemen are told to risk their lives defending Constitution of this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic, each and every Congressman and each and every Senator can spend a day or two of their time defending this Constitution, reviewing necessary documents, in order to see if Barack Hussein Obama is a Natural Born Citizen, if he is a citizen at all.” This is the message that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is sending to them, and if they are not listening, there has to be a massive petition drive to recall them. Truth will come out, no matter how many millions Obama is spending to hide it.
Dr.Orly Taitz, ESQ
drorly.blogspot.com
dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Dr. Kate and others here need to bone up on their Constitutional law.
The Supreme Court ruled in 1939 in the case of Perkins v. Elg that there is nothing that parents can do to cause a minor child to lose American citizenship. This means that even if Obama was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, and even if Obama’s parents got Indonesian citizenship for him, that did not in any way, shape or form have any affect on his U.S. citizenship. Even if Obama’s mother had renounced her citizenship, it would have had no affect upon Obama’s citizenship.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=307&invol=325
Pursuant to The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, the only way Obama could have lost his citizenship would be if he failed to return to the United States and establish residence here before he reached the age of 25. In fact, he returned to the United States when he was ten, so all this talk about Indonesia is legally irrelevant.
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/1952_Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_66Statxx_TitleIII_Chapter3.pdf
drkate-
Here is some interesting historical information (by J. L. Bell, a writer who specializes the American Revolution and has published scholarly articles on the subject) about Charles W. Alexander/Wesley Bradshaw, author of “Washington’s Vision”, which was actually originally published in 1861. Also some historical information on the story’s source, Anthony Sherman:
http://boston1775.blogspot.com/2006/12/truth-of-washingtons-vision.html
Interestingly, (Alexander, writing as) Bradshaw also published an account of the ghost of George Washington appearing to (Civil War) General McClellan, laying out a vision of enemy positions that enabled McClellan’s army to defeat the enemy at Antietam.
To the naysayers who think WAshington’s vision as told to a writer, and as recorded in the Library of Congress, in the Mormon church files, and in the actual prayer book of George Washington are welcome to find alternative sources that say more than they ‘think’ it is a fake. The Mormon archives are particularly fascinating, I am not done looking there.
Thank you all for the support and for reading and seeing this post. The petition for redress should be filed, I am thinking of just faxing it to the Senate and house with my name on in on Friday….if anyone is interested we should talk about how to do this. The We the People Foundation is quite experienced with this, but at least it is an avenue that normal people have to express their displeasure now, and later at the ballot box.
Here is just one taste of some of the Mormon church’s discussion of our heritage. You have to dig but it is there!
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=5fe5fd758096b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1
JUST ONE DAY BEFORE CONGRESS VOTES ON ELECTORAL ‘VOTE’ CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS HAS DISTRIBUTED FOR CONFERENCE DR. ORLY’S LIGHTFOOT CASE!
MESSAGE — NOW RENEWED AS AN ALERT — TO EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS:
When counting the electoral votes, either Congress finds by 1/8/09 that Obama — not being an Article II “natural born citizen” (father Kenyan/British, not American, citizen) — fails to qualify as President whereupon Biden becomes the full fledged President under 3 USC 19 (free to pick his own VP such as Hillary) or thereafter defers to the Supreme Court to enjoin Obama’s inauguration with Biden becoming only Acting President under the 20th Amendment until a new President is duly determined.
The preferable choice (especially for the Democrats) — IN WHAT WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT AND HISTORIC CONGRESSIONAL VOTE SINCE THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR — should seem obvious.
*SPECIAL AUDIO LINK MESSAGE TO JOHN MCCAIN:
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=691
yes Mary C — when I read about Obama and his “blue helmets”, the first thing that struck my mind was the “blue turban”! Nostradamus said that the man with the blue turban would invade Europe.
and the blue helmets UN force would be sent to …. Europe!
to the doubters: please do not call me a conspiracy theorist, or this “nonsense”. I don’t wear a tinfoil hat, or have a stockpile of food (maybe I should).
I’m just an ordinary hardworking American, passionately, deeply, helplessly, in love with my beautiful USA. I have a family of veterans that I cherish with all my heart.
And I am heartbroken, and terrified, that Americans have elected as their leader, a man that is so ridiculously supersecretive, with a very sinister past, who talks smoothly yet says nothing, and yet has a blind and passionate following.
One only need look at the recent past to see what damage, and horror, one man caused when no one dared look into his past, or question his intentions.
and nostradamus correctly, and precisely, predicted him. Hindsight is 20/20…… you would have called his prediction hogwash in 1930, but 20 years later, you would not.
Great document! Tell me where and when to sign. I might as well live up to my reputation as a “legalist.” It is indeed important that Obama’s eligibility be verified.
Re the George Washington vision–apocryphal or not, the predictions form a cautionary tale. I’m neither paranoid or fearful, but we always need to be watchful and aware. As for Georgie, he took land from my ancestors by rather underhanded means so he is not one of my heroes. (Yes, skeptics, I have the historic references, including his own diary.)
Can someone please educate me here on the SC process……Orly Taitz got her suit to conference by Justice Roberts, but it is set for Jan 23rd, AFTER the swearing in.
YET……. the person doing the swearing in on Jan 20th……. IS JUSTICE ROBERTS!! And for him to legally do that, he would have to have no doubt that UEBO is eligible. Yet, how can he do that, when he has allowed a case to go to conference that questions UEBO’s elibility????
Wouldn’t then Justice Roberts doing the swearing in be illegal?
To all my listeners,
Tonight’s show will start at 10:00pm ET. We will continue our Constitution Eligibility guest-week leading to the Jan. 9 Conference for the Berg Case.
Interview: The Honorable Rev. David James Manning ON BARACK OBAMA CONSTITUTION ELIGIBILITY TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THERE will be MUCH MORE TO BE DISUSS!!!
Join me{Matt}, Momma E, and Phillip at 10:00pm ET. Call-in Number:347-202-0443.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/My-Two-Cents
TD,
Perhaps some of my irritability comes from the fact that I’m old enough to have done a graduate degree in an era where “research” consisted of going to an actual library and digging through books or other primary-source materials to find what I needed, or driving an hour to a repository library that had a book instead of waiting two days for it to show up on interlibrary loan. Or going through five file boxes of records labeled with just a year that a clerk pulled out from a storage room in the hope of finding some obscure documentation to complete a report.
Research sloppiness when the information is readily available is unforgivable. It’s also why I don’t watch or read most US news; they do essentially zero fact checking, just passing along whatever they’re told. Want a example? They still say a million people attend the Tournament of Roses Parade every year
Great essay, Dr. Kate.
“The SPIRIT who visited him finished by saying.”
I have to ask the simple question. What SPIRIT?!?
“1 John 4
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Would a “spirit” from one that “confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God,” address one of God’s children as “Son of the Republic?” God the Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth, Father to his beloved Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, is not an American; nor is he Russian, nor is he Madagascan…
John 18:35-37
35Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
37Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
I am a US Marine veteran. Proud citizen of my country. However, my first duty is to my citizenship in Heaven…
Rich:
natural born means
jus sanguine
jus soli
Barry can never be jus sanguine.
He has not proven he is jus soli.
Ironically Barry himself as cosponsor of S.R. 511 boldly concurs.
Awesome–just awesome!
Rich,
Leo Donofrio and others have not argued that he lost citizenship but that he doesn’t meet the “natural born” requirement set forth in the Constitution.
To All Military Personnel and Everyone Who Loves Them:
I posted a template of the Military Complaint on my blog. Please feel free to use this. Copy the language exactly, filling in only the information specific to your Complaint, including the names of the military Plaintiffs and their identifying facts; and the federal court in which the Complaint will be filed. Any questions, post a comment.
As soon as I receive confirmation anyone has filed this, I will post the filed Complaint.
“He was an Anglican/Episcopalian, but didn’t take communion, and was more casual about religion than most, with possible leanings toward Deism rather than Christianity”
“WHEREAS it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me “to recommend to the people of the United States a DAY OF PUBLICK THANKSGIVING and PRAYER, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:”
NOW THEREFORE, I do recommend and assign THURSDAY, the TWENTY-SIXTH DAY of NOVEMBER next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed;– for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish Constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted;– for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge;– and, in general, for all the great and various favours which He has been pleased to confer upon us.
And also, that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions;– to enable us all, whether in publick or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us); and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
GIVEN under my hand, at the city of New-York, the third day of October, in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-nine.
(signed) G. Washington ”
Copy of original document
http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/washington-thanksgiving-original.html
Sounds like someone who takes God pretty serious to me
I cannot believe I forgot to post the link…
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
I was reading though the divorce papers again of Ann/Lolo ….
I would have to investigate but I would think by marriage under Indonesian laws that Ann would be considered an Indonesian citizen.. If the adoption of Bam Bam did happen..and it followed US format then Barry would of been adopted by both his parents, even though he was actually born to Ann….. In turn that would make Barry adopted by TWO Indonesian citizens …..
any thoughts??
Or has anyone read the other article in Lame Cherry’s blog about Bam’s Momma being a automatic British citizen because of marriage?
I bookmarked the British Nationality act on 1948 and 1965 but I haven’t had a chance to read it…….
SO many weird and unexplainable possibilities……..BO and his family are a regular soap opera… As the Stomach Flips
I don’t think it’s helpful to use the same type of approach as used by a group who has been ineffective, which is what Dr. Kate states the We the People Foundation has been — its “petitions” have been unanswered, she wrote.
I don’t think it’s helpful to use anything but logical, reasoned argument — no Nostradamus or other soothsayers. Few take any of that seriously, and people with good scholarly reputations have debunked the Washington vision thing, so that also is not good to use.
I believe we will get this issue looked at, but it might not be before January 20. Do not give up hope that justice will be served.
Also, I would strongly caution against proceeding as if we knew what the legal definition of “natural born” is. We cannot go around saying Obama is or is not a natural born citizen. We need our government to give us a definition of the term. That is what we are looking for, because nobody knows what it means.
To say otherwise makes our effort look quite foolish, in my opinion.
If anything, we should begin thinking about enlisting a lot of people for some kind of march on Washington later on.
Revised Draft Redress Petition
Great Draft Dr. Kate
Following is a revised draft where I have tried to refine your arguments and document a few of the facts. Use whatever helps.
DRAFT revised Jan 7, 2009
PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES
REGARDING THE FAILURE TO CHALLENGE THE CONSTITUTIONAL QUALIFICATIONS THE PRESIDENT ELECT, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
INTRODUCTION
WHEREAS, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides, in part, that “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of…or the right of the people…to petition the government for a redress of grievances”;
WHEREAS, no Member of Congress raised an objection over the qualifications of the presidential candidates in Congress on January 8th 2009, when the President of the Senate called for objections on the reading of each State’s electoral certificates for Barack Hussein Obama II ( 3 U.S.C. Ch. 1, §15, §17, §19(a) (1), and §19);
WHEREAS no Member of Congress raised a Point of Order before the President of the Senate challenging his qualifications for President when Barack Obama II was declared President elect, thereby committing misprision and failing to perform their sworn duty to uphold Amendment 20 of the U.S. Constitution.
FACTS
WHEREAS, Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution specifies that “no person except a natural born citizen….shall be eligible to hold the office of the President of the United States”;
WHEREAS, by Article II Section 2 President needs qualify as Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States;
WHEREAS, John Jay, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, wrote George Washington July 25, 1787: “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the commander in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen”;
WHEREAS, John A. Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment wrote: “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty”;
WHEREAS, Perkins v Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 328 (1939) found that Ms. Elg, born in Brooklyn NY to a Swedish father and an American mother was considered a US citizen but not a natural born citizen;
WHEREAS, the ‘natural born citizen’ qualification has thus been construed to require birth in the United States or its territories and to two American citizens, without allegiance to any foreign nation;
WHEREAS, the 14th Amendment to the Constitution does not confer the ‘natural born citizen’ title on naturalized U.S. citizens;
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama II acknowledged that his father was a Kenyan National, and that at birth Mr. Obama was born of first allegiance to the British Crown, through the citizenship of his father under the British Nationality Act of 1948;
WHEREAS, the divorce decree D. No. 57972 of Stanley Ann D. Obama and Barack Hussein Obama acknowledged that Barack Hussein Obama was the biological father of Barack Hussein Obama II;
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama admits he was adopted by an Indonesian National named Lolo Soetoro;
WHEREAS, the Hawaiian divorce decree No. 117619 of Stanley Ann D. Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro, acknowledged Barry Soetoro as their child, by affirming they had one child below 18, and one child above 18;
WHEREAS, Gradebook No. 203 Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta records Mr. Obama having used the legal name “Barry Soetoro”, born on Honolulu 4-8-1961, with parents named Mr./Ms.: L. Soetoro M A (Lolo Soetoro)” and that he was a citizen of Indonesia;
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama has stated that he is a ‘native’ born U.S. Citizen under the 14th Amendment;
WHEREAS, Barack Hussein Obama signed notarized documents regarding his eligibility to serve as President under the U.S. Constitution, including sworn statements of his ‘natural born’ citizenship;
WHEREAS, except for an ambiguous Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth, Mr. Obama has sealed of his birth certificates and educational records and has expended nearly one million dollars to avoid providing evidence that he is a natural born citizen and qualifies to serve as President;
WHEREAS, to date no legal authority has received unambiguous evidence verifying that Barack Hussein Obama is a ‘natural born citizen’ as required by Article II of the United States Constitution;
WHEREAS, 33 Democracies descended into tyranny in the 20th century for failing to uphold their constitutions, resulting in over 100 million people being killed by their own governments;
WHEREAS, Amendment 20 Section 3 provides that “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”, the Constitution thus requires a challenge to the qualifications of the President elect, and that thereafter the legal burden of proof lies with the President elect to demonstrate that he has qualified to be President per Article II Sections 1 and 2 including being a “natural born citizen” having only ever had undivided loyalty to the United States as required for the Commander in Chief;
WHEREAS, the information on record strongly indicates that Mr. Obama has not and does not qualify to be President of the United States;
WHEREAS, while every member of Congress has an affirmative duty to ensure the protection of the U.S. Constitution, Congress willfully ignored the disqualifying information, the danger to our Constitution, the Country, and the Citizenry, and nevertheless certified the Electoral College vote for Mr. Obama;
WHEREAS, Congress has violated the trust of the people by failing to conduct due diligence and verify the eligibility of Mr. Obama thereby endangering the Citizenry by precipitating a constitutional crisis.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT,
WE, the undersigned, do pray Congress provide relief and redress as follows:
1. Challenge the qualifications of President elect, under Amendment 20 Section 3, and placing the President elect on notice that the burden of proof that he qualifies lies with him to provide unambiguous objective original evidence beyond doubt that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen under Article II Section 1, and qualifies to be Commander in Chief having only held undivided allegiance to the United States, and having been born within US jurisdiction of two US citizens in allegiance to the United States;
2. Enter into the Congressional record the available documentation regarding the qualifications of Barack Hussein Obama II including each case filed in US Courts challenging his qualifications to become President, including: Berg v. Obama, U.S.C. 08-570; Hollister v. Soetoro a.k.a. Obama; Broe v Reed U.S.C. Cause No. 8-2-473-8, Lightfoot v. Bowen U.S.C. No. 08A524;
3. Recognize that:
a. Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II is not qualified to serve as President because he is not a natural born citizen as required by Article II, Section 1 and 2 of the Constitution, having “Foreign Allegiances” at birth and by adoption, by renouncing US citizenship, and by failing to provide unambiguous evidence that he is “a natural born Citizen” fit to be Commander in Chief without other allegiances. In particular:
i. Recognize that Mr. Obama had first allegiance to the British Crown and to Kenya, being born a British Citizen under the British Nationality Act of 1948 and then a citizen of Kenya through his Kenyan biological father Barack Obama, Sr.
ii. Recognize that Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Barack Obama, also has primary allegiance to Indonesia, having Indonesian citizenship by adoption Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, a citizen of Indonesia, by Constitution of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958, Art. 2 (1), and as required to enroll in Indonesian schools. As evidenced by school records and travel to Pakistan in 1981, Mr. Obama retains his Indonesian citizenship.
b. Recognize that Barack Obama II has failed to produce unambiguous evidence that he is a “natural born Citizen” born to two U.S. citizens “in the allegiance of the United States” and that he has retained that exclusive allegiance to the United States, in that the Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth may be obtained for births out of the State, is ambiguous as to the citizenship of the parents, and requires no independent witnesses to the birth or parents;
4. By Amendment 20, Section 3, declare that the President elect has failed to qualify;
5. Invoke the 20th Amendment to appoint an ‘Acting President’, and that the first order of business of the Congress is thereby to elect a President who does qualify;
6. Seek whatever guidance is needed from the U.S. Supreme Court.
7. Develop federal regulations and procedures to ensure that Presidential Candidates are natural born citizens qualifying to be Commander In Chief, and are fully vetted for their eligibility to serve by each of the States before any election for President.
Thank you Dr. Kate for your very thought provoking piece and to Texas Darlin for hosting this excellent blog.
At these pivotal moments as all eyes are on Congress, it helps me to look back and reflect that we as lovers of freedom, are part of a cycle. One which affords some peace and comfort, but never allows us to forget the source of, the value and price of those freedoms.
Our Founding Fathers, through their great wisdom could put things into perspective very well. I hope these words encourage others as they do me.
Alexander Hamilton
“The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sun beam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the Divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.” Alexander Hamilton
“In my opinion, the present consitution is the standard to which we are to cling. Under its banner bona fide must we combat our political foes, rejecting all changes but through the channel itself provided for amendments. By these general views of the subject have my reflections been guided. I now offer you the outline of the plan they have suggested. Let an association be formed to be denominated “The Christian Constitutional Society,” its object to be first: The support of the Christian religion. second: The support of the United States.” Alexander Hamilton
Psalm 33:12 “Blessed is the nation who’s God is the Lord”
Press on!
See my view on this:
http://www.JoeSixPack.me
Here’s another proclamation we need right now:
http://www.TakeBackTheFed.com
Some evidence taken from Lightfoot v Bowen
See:
http://goexcelglobal.com/share/c146.pdf
Pelosi: Could someone please help me with a Pelosi issue?
1. I am confused: How could Pelosi—in good conscience—sign a Hawaii “Official Certification of Nomination” where she says that Obama and Biden “are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution”,if she really had no valid and legal proof?
2. That is, what documents did Pelosi personally look at and touch that proved to her that Obama was “legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution”?
3. For instance, did Pelosi look at Obama’s long form Hawaii birth certificate—the one with the doctor and hospital names on it?
4. To me, the only way that Pelosi could absolutely know for sure that Obama was “legally qualified to serve under the provisions of
the United States Constitution” is if she had seen and touched first hand a copy of Obama’s long form Hawaii birth certificate—the one with the doctor and hospital names on it.
5. And if Pelosi has indeed seen and touched a copy of Obama’s long form Hawaii birth certificate—the one with the doctor and hospital names on it—then I wonder why Pelosi has not shared the copy of Obama’s long form Hawaii birth certificate with the rest of the world and help put this Obama eligibility mess to rest once and for all.
6. So, I ask this of Pelosi: How did you personally know that Obama was “legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution” when you signed the “Official Certification of Nomination” for the state of Hawaii?
7. Pelosi, I have one final thought: Did you commit perjury when you signed that ” Official Certification of Nomination” for Hawaii, when, in reality, you had no proof whatsover that Obama was “legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution”?
Thanks, my two cents, for hosting an ‘eligibility week’. with the way this is going, you might have to do ‘eligibility month’.
Just some guy. Thanks for being cranky! I did more research and will update this post with the verification of Washington’s Vision. I don’t run from a critique, I will take a look at it.
Rich, thanks for your condescending note. However, what you say doesn’t matter one bit. First, he is a British national at birth, maybe not even American if he was born outside US. Second, he would have had to be naturalized and declare his US citizenship when he turned 18, he didnt. psst–dual citizenship, a no no for POTUS. Too bad, so sad, obama was born in circumstances that would never allow him to be president. “It’s not his fault” is not a way to meet ARticle II qualifications. Sorry.
Tanarg. What good is the First Amendment if we don’t use its premises? We have a right to petition. They don’t listen. At some point it borders on treason: this is one of those times. They are willfully violating the constitution. Remember we started the American revolution in part this way. I agree that demonstrations are going to be necessary, but also maybe citizen arrests, too. It will not be pretty. We owe it to our Country to try every means available to secure our constitution–in fact, it is our responsibility!
David Hagan. KUDOS WELL DONE. I think if anyone is planning on using this template you should adopt David’s language and approach. Thank you!
That’s what I love about this blog–ask for help and ‘poof’! there it is!!
David A. OMG. tears. Please let this be a time when the true patriots invoke our Founders’ words, thought, vision and passion….
Regarding Dr Orly Taitz’s scheduling for Jan 23, I still think it is quite a clear distinction
a. This is bullshit and they are stringing us all along, or
b. They will postpone the inauguration until barky proves himself or steps down.
Either way we have our work cut out for us.
Agreed Joe SixPac. The 16th Amendment was never ratiifed and the “creature from jekyll island’ (the FED) must be abolished. Truly an affront to the Constitution.
Whoa! You folks are certainly well spoken and research your writings. All I have to say about the post is -
DOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOOMMMM!
“exsisto curiosus quis vos opto”
Dear people
If we are so fortunate to follow the Constitutional process to our intended logical end, guess what our reward will be?
Assume:
Berg vs. Obama is heard on the 9th, and summary judgment for Berg.
Obama declared ineligible
20th Amendment can only apply for a ‘’sitting” President
Biden declared ineligible (proposed “co-conspirator” in Obama fraud)
McCain declared ineligible (not a NBC)
Palin declared ineligible (proposed “co-conspirator” in McCain fraud)
Under 12th Amendment, Congress chooses “acting” POTUS
Congress -> DNC majority
Senate -> DNC majority
44th “acting” POTUS (pending special election to be determined) sworn in on Jan. 20th -> Hillary Rodham Clinton
Special “presidential” election (general election – “unprecedented” in US history) set for Nov. 2010 (for logistical/convenience reasons coinciding with 2010 congressional and gubernatorial elections).
Before we get to Nov. 2010: (more likely before summer 2009)
Nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India (unprecedented since Hiroshima and Nagasaki — 1945)
Potential attack on Iran via Israel and (covertly) U.S.
As predicted by Gen. Tommy Franks (former CENTCOM Cdr. ), US Constitution is indefinitely suspended.
Emergency powers are declared
Martial Law enforced globally
Hillary Clinton becomes “de facto” military ruler of the US
And the rest — is “history.”
or
we can go with Dr. Edwin Vieira’s “scenario”
http://newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin186.htm
or
with William Norman Grigg
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w68.html
or, we can hope for the “second coming” of Oliver Cromwell…
DrKate,
Great Job! I agree putting them on notice that we are not going away is a great idea. We need to make our voice’s heard loud and clear, louder and stronger. Not only will our voices become louder but our numbers will become stronger. The damning our Nation, trampling our Flag and killing our Constitution is not going to happen. We are Americans that will stand up to the corruption and not lay down without a fight.
Couldn’t agree more with you all! YES we do need to take back the Fed, as Joe said– Someone posted on the open thread a link to the barebones understanding of who is “really pulling the strings”– (hint: “the borrower is slave to the lender” and “he who controls the money controls everything else”). It is a short read–> The History of the House of Rothschild – http://www.nogw.com/download/2005_rothschild_history.pdf
Rich,
I read the case you referred to. Here’s some things you should zone in on that was discussed in that case:
It is dealing specifically with “the right of election of a native citizen of the United States when he becomes of age to retain American citizenship.”
Thus, as it says, “with reasonable promptness on attaining majority[he must] manifest his election.
and further…
“[I]t may be asserted negatively that one who has long manifested no indication of a will to make such an election should NOT (my emphasis) receive the protection of the United States save under the express approval of the department’. ”
BHO never did this, and we KNOW he didn’t… HOW? Because he traveled on a foreign visa AFTER he attained the age of majority. This very act of traveling on a foreign visa, makes it utterly manifestly clear that he in fact retained his Indonesian citizenship.
He never made the election for U.S. citizenship…and in fact showed as much by using his right as a foreign citizen to travel AFTER he attained majority, and when no one was allowed into that country on a U.S. passport.
But there’s also the fact that he even recently is alleged to have traveled on a foreign passport when he traveled to Kenya in support of Odinga.
And yet this is all really beside the point anyway (even though the case you cite actually articulates in FAVOR of an argument that he lost his citizenship when he failed to manifest it at a “reasonable” time, as the court said in dicta)— the entire case is discussing citizenship in general anyway– not “natural born” citizenship required of one who the people must be reasonably persuaded to believe has no other allegiances to any other country. I have no assurance of that….Do you?
Also regarding The Immigration and Nationality Act….see section 1481—
“(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—
(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years;”
To travel on a visa from a foreign country means that he was deemed a “citizen” of that foreign country, in which case, according to said section above, he LOST his U.S. nationality the moment he did so.
I saw this on another site (cant remember where) but it make’s a lot of sense.
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The Justices know exactly what the issues are and are constantly being bombarded with similar legal applications to be considered regarding Barack Obama’s eligibility for president.
As I’ve mentioned in a previous post, if the Justices wanted to dismiss Berg’s writ of certiorari they could have but they deliberately chose to discuss it 24 hours after congress officially counts the Electoral College’s votes; reason being, Berg’s issue of standing will then be valid.
Once Obama officially wins the national vote (via the counting of Electoral College’s votes), Berg’s issue of harm being done to him by Obama now becomes legally valid. It is no longer theoretical; thus Berg does have legal standing.
Now in a political game of chess, the Supreme Court’s manoeuvring of the January 9th date to discuss Berg’s writ of certiorari can be seen as a chess move of “check” against Obama.
Obama is now in a corner but still can move his king chess piece and similarly with the writ of certiorari, Obama still could refuse to deliver evidence proving he was born in United States.
I understand why the Justices set a date one week later (January 16) to discuss Berg’s injunction to stop congress from counting the Electoral College’s votes, this move can be seen as check and mate!
Meaning Obama’s king can’t move in any direction on the chessboard, thus he’s trapped and has lost the game!
Setting a date to discuss the injunction on preventing congress from counting the Electoral College’s votes isn’t a moot issue; in this context any judgement is retroactive!
So that even if congress has counted the Electoral College’s votes and have declared Obama the presidential winner; if the Supreme Court finds Obama ineligible to be a presidential candidate, they can retroactively cancel the results of the January 8th Electoral College’s vote count!
And that’s why the Supreme Court is allowing for a January 16th conference on Berg’s injunction to stop congress from counting the Electoral College’s vote on January 8th.
It’s not a moot issue, it’s a very deliberate political game of entrapment or as in chess it can be seen as a move of checkmate. Because the Supreme Court is basically giving Obama no wiggle room to manoeuvre and escape from the January 9th’s conference of Berg’s writ of certiorari.
The Supreme Court is ultimately saying to Obama, if you don’t hand over your evidence to us on January 9th, you will be forced to hand over your evidence to us on January 16th, otherwise we’ll retroactively cancel the results from the Electoral College’s votes that were counted back on January 8th!
Ok—Now I see the big picture! Part 2
So now I see the big picture and the ultimate endgame that the Supreme Court has in mind for Barack Obama.
Just like in chess, the winner is the person who sees many moves in advance; in this case the winner is the Supreme Court!
They’ve set a checkmate legal trap for Obama, whereby even if there are no objections by any members of congress, the Electoral College’s votes are counted and Obama is declared the presidential winner on January 8th.
The Supreme Court has deliberately chosen to wait until January 9th to discuss Berg’s writ of certiorari, whereby Berg’s legal standing (harm that can be done to him by Obama) becomes valid!
And finally, the Supreme Court has made it perfectly clear to Obama by its deliberate action of allowing for a January 16th conference regarding Berg’s injunction to stop congress in counting the Electoral College’s votes; that unless he hands over his evidence to them on January 9th—they’ll retroactively cancel the Electoral College’s voting results from January 8th!
I’m smiling so much now because all this time Barack Obama has hired teams of lawyers to go to court and ask to dismiss all these lawsuits that have one similar theme—show proof you were born in the United States.
But now because just one of these ‘nuisance’ cases (as Obama sees it) has made it to the Supreme Court, the Justices have already out manoeuvred Obama and his team of high priced attorneys.
First, they’ve cornered Obama with a move of check by setting a conference date of January 9th (24 hours after congress counts the Electoral College’s votes) to discuss Berg’s writ of certiorari; the case can’t be dismissed—Berg will have legal standing!
And finally the Supreme Court has made its devastating move of checkmate by allowing a conference on January 16th to discuss Berg’s injunction to stop congress in counting the Electoral College’s votes!
There’s no more wriggle room left for Obama because essentially it’s a fait accompli by January 9th for him to hand over his evidence to the Justices otherwise, if he doesn’t comply by January 16th, the Justices’ will have it within their power to retroactively cancel the results from the January 8th Electoral College’s vote count!
So Obama tried to play a game of legal chess against the Supreme Court—well guess what? Obama—you’ve already lost! Checkmate!
I have had discussions with several members of TS about putting together a “petition for redress of grievances.” However, it was not to just address one issue but several others as well, such as securing our borders and upholding our immigration laws. In my research, I have found others in our history have taken on this task with little affect as the government and it’s officials elected to ignore the petitioners.
Our founding fathers had foreseen this, since they had petitioned to the King on numerous occasions but were ignored. They knew they had to add some teeth to the right. In an act of the continental Congress in 1774, they wrote; “If money is wanted by Rulers, who have in any manner oppressed the people, they may retain it, until their grievances are redressed; and thus peaceably procure relief, without trusting to despised petitions, or disturbing the public tranquility.”
Clearly they felt that by withholding taxes/monies, the people’s grievances could not be ignored. I know of no such petition that has used the full measure of this constitutional right. But before using violence as a means to combat a rogue government, the framers gave the American people one final tool to keep public tranquilty and peace.
I guess my question to you, is will you use that tool?
i think the comment posted by descent american has merit. i sroberts scheduling something for conference after he will be doing the swearing in….just a dog and pony show for us? why would he schedule a conference on obamas eligibility issue on jan 23rd, AFTER he will be administering the oath of office on jan 20h…is he sure he is eligible and he has no concern for th 20th? or,……does he think the BERG conferences scheduled for the 9th and 16th will grant cert….and the jan 20th oath will not happen as scheduled…so more time for the ORLY case on the 23rd?
I’m telling you – the court isn’t going to do anything to remove Obama. Period. Even if they eventually were to get enough evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is ineligible to be POTUS. They just won’t do it. But I don’t think they will let it get that far. So it would be up to congress to act – Obama would have to be impeached… by a Dem controlled congress. Not going to happen. These cases should have been heard months ago – not just before and just after the swearing in of the Dictator in Chief.
But why? Why are they doing this? I just don’t understand. McCain’s eligibility came up and was dealt with. I simply do not understand. Is there a fact I do not know? Is there a flaw in my reasoning? What? This is surreal. I am so frustrated. I cannot believe this is happening.
It is heartbreaking to see my country do something so blatantly wrong. I cannot accept this, but I don’t know what to do. I’d like to march on Washington — a couple hundred thousand of us — and raise public awareness. But why aren’t people with good reputations in the legal profession raising this question? Why? Is every single one of them just interested in power? I am so disillusioned that I wonder if it’s worth doing anything.
I don’t want to become like them, though, so I’m caught in an untenable position. I am angry and disappointed that this country is evidently just a sham, after all that it’s been through. I want to hold a funeral for America. It’s too sad for words. There cannot be any more America if we ignore the most fundamental requirements for our leaders. This is insane. Just insane.
And if I am saying things like this and revealing the depth of my emotions and frustrations, you can be sure far more unbalanced people who are otherwise just like me are now contemplating how to get the attention of the entire country. I am really afraid of that. In my own fantasies, I do something outrageous to get attention, but of course I would never do it. Yet the thought of doing something that would be innocuous (not hurt anyone) yet draw worldwide attention appeals to me.
Such a thing would be a march on Washington.
Thomas G Ayers, father to William (Bill) the “bomber” Ayers. All sources show him as the former CEO of Commonwealth Edison. Yes, this is true, but no one is talking about the fact that he was the Director of General Dynamics ! 1986 article ? Wish I could drop the link in sorry. There is a wavy sign between /and kerry, but can’t duplicate. Wow ! Good luck ! http://www.sonic.net/kerry/bohemien/groundnukes.html
Yeah, sorry.
Washington’s prayer journal is no longer recognized by the Library of Congress or the Washington estate in Virginia as an official Washington publication, nor is the Vision considered more than a tale.
In 1936, several experts who had handled Washington’s books, notes and ledgers all came to the same conclusion – that the journal was written by someone else (most likely the same person who was selling forgeries of Washington’s notes). Handwriting doesn’t match, the format doesn’t match, and history doesn’t match.
In reality, Washington was an Evangelican who didn’t take Communion and was a very small deist at best.
Other than that, I don’t care to comment, other than to say research your facts thoroughly before using them.
If a theory is to get a hearing, or convince those not already inclined to believe, and not be dismissed as yet another conspiracy theory, I recommend against arguments involving one or more of dreams, psychic powers, mass hypnosis, precognition, conspiracies involving more than a hundred or so people – or any single individual who does not directly get something out of said conspiracy – or which involve any group of persons going to a great deal of trouble for negligible rewards. Why would they bother?
At the moment, this blog seems to be heading towards the status of an special-interest club: you get some regulars, occasional people who wander by and find that the group fits their personal beliefs, and a number of spectators who find dropping by occasionally amusing. I see less than 60 comments on this thread at the moment: if each represents 1000 serious readers then you’re still getting less than one person out of every 5000 in the United States.
If you want to accomplish something, focus on things with a chance of working and make sure that the information you present is flawless. Unfortunately, there are a number of flaws in this petition:
Firstly, no matter how any individual, or group thereof, chooses to interpret something, or how well argued their position may be, such interpretation is only meaningful if enough people agree with it to make it effective. For example, the phrase “natural born citizen” could be interpreted to exclude anyone born by caesarean section, or with the assistance of a medical practitioner or any kind. In practice, any such definition is meaningless unless it is either recognized by statute or by the courts. Like it or not, and even if only by default, both the courts and a sizable fraction of the people in the country seem to be accepting a minimal definition of “natural born” – simply being born a citizen – at the moment. If you don’t agree, or don’t like that, work on changing that acceptance. Simply demanding that other people accept the definition you want to use is very unlikely to work.
As is simply demonstrated, the laws of other nations are not relevant. If Dictator X decides that everyone in the world is a citizen of his country, whether they like it or not, so they are. Fortunately, no one outside his borders has to pay any attention to him. Arguments based on the laws of other countries are not going to go anywhere in court unless you can point to a treaty calling for their enforcement in this country.
In fact, numerous authorities of various types – for a start, everyone who endorsed him or voted for him – have thus stated that they believe that Obama is both eligible to be president and qualified for that position. While anyone is entitled to believe that all such individuals have been either tricked, brought into a conspiracy, are lying for other reasons, or are misinformed, this does not change the fact that those statements have been made. Similarly, various individuals have stated that they have investigated Obamas documentation and pronounced it unsatisfactory. Various other individuals have pronounced it satisfactory. Everyone is aware that some individuals will refuse to change their positions regardless of the evidence presented, as can be seen with the hollow earth theorists and the groups that refuse to believe in the existence of disease-causing micro-organisms. That is why demanding that something be proved to the satisfaction of the person issuing the demand is the mark of a fringe theory. Try stating that you and others like you have doubts, and ask the person you are communicating with to investigate and satisfy themselves.
As for a few individual points: Renouncing US Citizenship has some very specific requirements. Mr Obama does not seem to have fulfilled them. Presidents are not required to be “without other allegiance”, or no one with religious convictions could be president. Travel to Pakistan was not banned in 1981. It was advised against.
Like it or not, any error of assumption, logic, or fact is almost certain to get a politician or official confronted with a petition on a complex, volatile, or unpopular topic to toss it straight into the trash, reply with a form letter, and take no action. Identical treatment can be expected for anything that involves dreams, spirits, psychic powers, large conspiracies, or anything similar.
Dr.Kate, great post!!
Someone wanted Phil Berg’s new site is
http://obamacrimes.info
Check this out!!
Dr Orly,
While researching some of the addresses listed on your blog I ran into the following:
Two campaign contributions made by “Barack Obama” from two different addresses that don’t appear to be his. (I pulled up the property profiles for these properties.) Neither of these addresses was on the list you posted.
One address has the owner listed as Jane L. Stuart. Might that be
the same Jane L. Stuart that Treasurer of the Illinois Judges Association?
There is a second public record for the same address that lists the owner of a trust.
The second address that a campaign contribution as made from is a commercial entity called Fresh Choice.
The details to all of this are below.
The link to the page that lists these two campaign contributions is at the bottom of the email.
Isn’t this interesting?
Warmest regards,
Ruth Mutti
read the rest here, (link in my name also)
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/info-from-reader-ruth-mutti-could-there.html
I strongly suggest that everyone copy and print the Military Complaint and send it to any 5 Senators and any 5 Congressmen. If everyone did that who reads here, that would mean thousands of these circulating among these “hear-no-evil, see-no-evil” politicians.
They seem to be deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to the facts, but we still need to keep sending them.
Do not be silent. I just called 15 senators & congressmen this morning and left messages urging them to object to the certification of votes today and to ask for verification of Obama’s natural born citizenship status.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
David L. Hagen, thank you for the petition for redress above.
I have copied and printed 20 copies and will be sending them (notarized free at my bank) to Senators and Representatives.
It isn’t necessary nor wise to sign petitions in my opinion.
What we need is VOLUME. The politicians need to receive thousands and thousands of petitions for redress, all from individuals, not one or two with thousands of signatures. Get my point? Their mailboxes need to be flooded.
Those 20 mailed pieces will cost me all of $8.40. Yes, my country is worth at least that much! How about you all?
To jbjd at 12:04 1/8/2009,
excellent Template for militaty complaint.
You might want to include the exact words from state of hawaii since so many congressmen think that Hawaii confirms BO was born in HI:-
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
(they did not confirm bo was born in Hawaii, they only state that there is a bc on records blah blah..)
Dr. Kate, TD and fellow posters:
Dr. Kate I certainly appreciate the effort you have gone into with this piece. I also appreciate David L. Hagen’s revision. Words are wonderful. In some cases, words in the form of stories can have life changing effects i.e. “All the President’s Men” and “The Pentagon Papers.” Unfortunately they are few and far between. Just look at The Declaration of Independence. The problem with declarations, petitions, redresses, and even lawsuits is they are largely judged (by people who do not believe in our opinion or want to maintain the status quo) and have the potential to be ignored or even forgotten. I believe most politicians and citizens do not even care what we think (but they think blogs are good for people like us so we can get this BHO stuff out of our system). To the bitter end, the colonists were trying to avoid war at all costs. However, King George and Parliament “ignored” the “wishes” of “the people.” Sound familiar? So what were the colonists to do? What is the next step? I think like the colonists, AFTER we have exhausted ALL AVENUES we must ultimately TAKE ACTION (I believe like the quote “actions speak louder than words”). The colonists action was the Boston Tea Party. I am not suggesting anything that bold. Rather I believe our model might by Gandhi or Martin Luther King. Until we take this step people in my humble opinion will never take our views seriously. If we like Gandhi can slow things in this country down (peaceful non violence) enough, then people will read all the wonderful things that this and other blogs have presented, and understand what “WE THE PEOPLE” really want.
MAY JANUARY 8TH, 2009 BE THE BIRTHDAY OF THE NEW CONSTITUIONAL PARTY.
Jo Chgo: Here’s a funny parallel for you. You said, “The Library of Congress has copies of anything published. That does not indicate accuracy of the content.”
This reminds me of the state of Hawaii archives. No matter what they have on file in accordance with their rules and regulations, the fact of its existence doesn’t prove “accuracy of the content,” even if they would let us see the content.
Gotta share with y’all some funny quotes from an AP story.
“Burris . . . was turned away by Senate officials who said his certification lacked the required signature from White as well as the official seal of the state of Illinois.”
Now, I could let that one stand by itself, so you can enjoy the irony; but I can’t resist suggesting that Burris’s mistake was that he didn’t take a page from his one-time Illinois colleague.
What Burris ought to have done is post a digital copy of his “certification” from Illinois Secretary of State White on his own website, making sure that the “certification” conveniently had the appropriate “signature” and “official seal of the state of Illinois.”
Second quote, this from an anonymous “transition official,” who said, that Obama (in a call to Reid) “conveyed the sense that if Burris has the legal standing to be seated, he should be, sooner rather than later.”
Yeah. Preferably before the inauguration, so as not to steal That One’s thunder.
Why not turn this one on its head and say that someone WITHOUT the legal standing to be seated, ought not be seated, sooner OR later?
Not seated AT ALL, imho.
To get a good lesson on the current state of “petition for redress” check the history of We The People web site and the work Bob Shultz has done trying to get the US Govt. to answer the question about tax law. As in what law makes one liable. So far no response. silence!
Great post, dr kate! Often the spiritual dimension is overlooked. The Washington vision, regardless of the means by which it was passed on, brings out the spiritual dimension of our great country.
Just a thought before I rush off to work this morning. It just came to me that we may be overlooking something.
Behind the scenes Hillary Clinton may be really working for what we are working for in regards to Obama. I see her as an All-American woman and I would have been a Republican for Hillary. Out of the “atmosphere” I just got a very strong “hint” that she and her husband are working night and day to see that our Constitution is kept in tact. Just a thought . . .
1) Why is Obama getting away with not having to prove his citizenship?
2) Why is it okay with people, that Obama NOT establish his qualifications to be eligible under our U.S. Constitution?
3) Why is the U.S. government NOT taking action to expose and convict this fraud?
4) What is being done to insure our country remains to be our own sovereignty?
5) Why are citizens allowing Obama to be our U.S. President, for his dishonorable deception of evading his own records of facts, having taken action to conceal, hide and destroy evidence of his eligibility, having rejected and denied the people’s rights to know the truth for which all standing evidence, even by Obama’s own statements establishes him as a fraud, an illegal alien hijacking our country!
6) Why is it acceptable that Obama is allowed to pretend he is a Christian, and yet in all matters defends Islam?
His public record establishes this fact, personally by attending school as a Muslim, and politically by pushing Islamisation of Sharia courts and jihadi violence and by standing up against Christians majority in Kenya’s government; despite the fact that Muslims make up only 10% of the population, compared to the 80% who are Christian.
Our constitution comes first, not someone’s skin color who continues to neglect and disclose his public records of facts!
What say you all?
TD & Doctor Kate:
“The democrats want to push Obama down our throats;”
Bet you can’t wait for Larry Sinclair’s book to be published.
Did anybody notice how the pro-Palestinian protestors in American cities are carrying signs that say “yes we can?”
Did you hear them shouting that Israelis need to go back to the brick ovens?
Isn’t it wonderful how the MSM will NOT report those signs and comments but will try to ban Ann Coulter for being too “shrill?”
I have said it before and I will say it now: Barack Obama is the biological child of Frank Marshall Davis and Stanley Ann Dunham, i.e. two American citizens, making him Natural-born. Barack’s sealed birth certificate in Hawaii most likely says this, even if he was born in Kenya. I think if he is forced to reveal this, he could say that he took the name BHO to honor a great Kenyan “freedom fighter” or some such nonsense. Many Americans will forgive him this as we want so badly for him to succeed, and not let a little detail like Article II of the US Constitution get in the way. His life so far is so woven thru with lies and deceptions that I think he believes none of these details will ever catch up with him.
As an avid U.S. military historian, and long-time resident of Monmouth County, NJ, I also believe that the General George Washington ‘vision’ was a literary work of fiction.
The best historical evidence in support of the fictional aspect of an otherwise very patriotic story comes from the fact that Anthony Sherman (actually he was Anthony Sherman, Jr.) was a real soldier in the Continental Army.
However, as reflected in his pension application he was not at Valley Forge with General Washington in 1777, but was under the command of Major General Benjamin Lincoln at the second Battle of Saratoga (Bemis Heights) on 7 October 1777. Anthony Sherman, Jr. did not serve under General George Washington until the Battle of Monmouth on June 28, 1778.
Therefore Anthony Sherman, Jr. could not have been an eyewitness to this event:
“One day, I remember it well, when the chilly winds whistled through the leafless trees, though the sky was cloudless and the sun shown brightly, he remained in his quarters nearly all the afternoon alone. When he came out, I noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual.”
There is also geneological data which fully supports this. That data compiled by Susan W. Pieroth records that Anthony Sherman, Jr., was a 5th Generation descendant of John Anthony (b. 1585 in England). Anthony Sherman Jr. was the son of Anthony Sherman and Mercy Chase, born September 13, 1752. Another relative, Roy Sherman wrote in his book:
“Notes for ANTHONY SHERMAN , JR:
On July 4, 1849 he was alive and in good health at 97 years of age when he was interviewed by a newspaper. He was a soldier of the Revolution enlisting first in Sept. 15, 1775 when a resident of Sag Harbor, Suffolk Co., Long Island, N.Y. and serving more than three years. He was in the Battles of Saratoga and Monmouth.”
Bev – you are the first person I’ve heard questioning this Steven Good issue. I’m not from Chicago, I don’t know Steven Good other than what I’ve read in the paper. Yet here is a real estate mogul supposedly having committed suicide. With all the goings on, I can’t help but think there’s something more here than meets the eye. Months and months of secrecy in politics have resulted in us having to question anything and everything since we are not getting any answers whatsoever. I guess I’ll get busy on the search engines again. Been doing quite a lot of that lately.
Redress Petitions MUST have notarized signature via USPOST or be signed with hand delivery
drkate
Per your “I am thinking of just faxing it to the Senate and house”.
Please note that a formal Petition for Redress of Grievances under the 1st Amendment requires
1) a Prayer (formal request for redress)
2) a Signature (or equivalent attestation)
3) delivery to:
a) a competent authority (eg Representative or Senator, Judge or Justice, Secretary or President), by
b) hand, OR
by US Post with a notarized signature.
Faxing or emailing is useful for time sensitive documents. However, to be constitutionally valid, they MUST be SIGNED, before a NOTARY PUBLIC. Otherwise the are just persuasive statements.
Ted — Biden only Acting President if Obama does not qualify
Your: “fails to qualify as President whereupon Biden becomes the full fledged President under 3 USC 19 (free to pick his own VP such as Hillary)” is not true.
See US Constitution Amendment 20.
“if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; “
I have never heard of Washington’s great vision before I read it here. I must admit that it is so inspiring.
The present lawless government of the United States of America is so depressing. I fear for the cause of liberty and freedom as our morally bankrupt people continual to elect the most unethical godless tyrants to rule over us. I fear America has become like Rome and our destruction is near.
Thank God for this TD Blog for inspiring true patriotism. Thank you TD and guest authors for your great work. May we prevail
against the lawless and unjust.
For RICH Jan 7, 9:03
The USSC ruling is correct. However, even though he returned to the the US at age 10, how, at age 20 did he go to Pakistan during a college break? US citizens/passports were not allowed into Pakistan during that time. What passport did he use? Indonesian? THAT is part of the stink that surrounds this man-child. He’d have had to have been an Indonesian citizen to travel under their passport.
Things that make you go…hhhhmmmmmmm
Wednesday December 7, 2009.
House Republican Press Conference Announcing Bill that will seek continuation of Ban to Fairness Doctrine.
I particularly liked Pelosi’s explanation of why she opposes the bill: “the interest of may caucus is the reverse.” Says it all.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?ProgramId=HP-A-40003
tanarg: “I would strongly caution against proceeding as if we knew what the legal definition of “natural born” is. We cannot go around saying Obama is or is not a natural born citizen. We need our government to give us a definition of the term. That is what we are looking for, because nobody knows what it means.”
I disagree completely. Our heritage is that the individual comes before the government, and the government exists only to secure the rights given us by our Creator. That implies responsible free will, and the free exercise of reason. As much as any member of the Supreme Court, I have the duty as a citizen, and ability as a free man, to determine the meaning of “natural born”. If my conclusion differs with unfolding events, then duty to my country compels me to act, speak, write, protest.
Natural born meant one thing only in 1789 and 1865. Its purpose is to prevent any possibility of divided allegiance in the Commander in Chief. The framers’ unassailable logic and the weight of history are on our side.
OT, isn’t it interesting that Obama gives his dark, fear-filled, built-up economic speech on the same day as the Senate certifies the vote?
We need our government to give us a definition of the term.
LOL!!!!
There’s a great letter to the DOJ from someone who posted it at Mitchell Langbert’s blog. Check it out.
I’ll have whatever Georgie Washington was smoking at the time of his vision!
McClaud, see update. the facts were researched.
Toth, I am sorry but your comment doesn’t make much sense. Care to explain why you think that providing information to the general public is useless?
Ian, lol.
Leza and others on the Supremes’ scheduling. I do pray that this is what is going on….especially scheduling Dr. Orly’s case for conference on Jan 23. Checkmate, I hope. Too bad Barky only learned how to play poker.
But this was my feeling from the beginning: Obama has from January 9th to the 16th to prove himself. Beyond that, inauguration cancelled and postponed until we have an eligible president.
Great work, everyone. Thanks for the tips on how to make a petition constitutionally legal…will do.
To the person who spoke about ‘witholding money’ until grievances are resolved–I’ve started already. I’ll pay taxes when Congress proves it is representing my interests above their own shallow political careers and egos.
Electoral Votes were just counted and announced by Cheney.
NO OBJECTIONS WERE MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact I didn’t hear Cheney even ASK if there were any objections.
We’re SCREWED!
Yankeegirl: Obama Sr.’s divorce decree states Obama Jr. is his son. So there’s a legal status. Obama said he saw his own birth certificate in a shoe box as a youth, and concurs in every action and deed that he’s Obama, Sr.’s son. So there’s a behavioral assertion.
Thanks Miri for directions to “letter to DOJ” – sobering to see all the pieces of the puzzle put together – so much hangs in the balance.
AnotherFineMess (on CitizenWells) wrote:
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“I called the office of my local rep – I guess the staffer listened but he came back with a few comments that I couldn’t respond to – I told the guy I would call back, so perhaps you can help me come up with good answers to these:
* He said that there’s no conclusive evidence (e.g. a foreign birth certificate, immigration documents ). All of the evidence I offered was “circumstantial” or at worst merely “speculation”.
* He said that the Constitution gives states the right to determine who is and is not a natural born citizen of that state, hence if Hawaii says he is “natural born” – then no other state can re-determine Obam’s citizenship.
* He said that it is silly to expect the congress or the senate to challenge a President Elect who has just won a landslide victory… it would be political suicide to attack Obama’s eligibility at the height of his popularity.
* He thanked me for my time and suggested that I keep gathering evidence because if Obama’s popularity fades there would be plenty of Republicans who would be prepared to use hard, conclusive evidence.
There’s quite a few issues there – I hope my friends here can help me come up with a suitable response to these questions before it is too late.
Keep up the fight!
Thanks”
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Well, so they’re prepared with some inept arguments. At least they’re a little different from the old ones.
To wit, I would respond thusly:
1. Obama refuses to provide any corroborating evidence to the worthless Certification of Live Birth.
2. Hawaii has never said Obama is natural born, in fact Hawaii has never said Obama was even born in Hawaii. They say they hold “a” birth certificate, and as we all know Hawaii will register a birth certificate from anywhere, and issue a Certification of Live Birth to anyone from anywhere. Every hospital in the state says his mother was never a patient there.
3. This is about our Constitution, it’s not a popularity contest, and political suicide is nothing compared to patriots who’ve given up their very lives for the sake of country. The spirit and intent of the Constitution is to prevent a usurpation, which is exactly what is happening here. Hitler also ran and won by a landslide! (Wow what nerve!)
4. This is also not about Republicans, it IS about our REPUBLIC and we are CITIZENS who seek to defend it.
This pissant really pisses me off, that he’d have been prepped to put off concerned callers with such nonsense!
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Miri, that is a very interesting letter indeed. However, my thinking is that Eric Holder will now be at the head of the DOJ and as such I sincerely doubt that he or one of his underlings will grace us with a reply. But I would LOVE to be wrong on that assumption.
Dr. Kate:
I agree with you that the “divine intervention” our Founding Fathers experienced is certainly needed now.
Best Regards,
JFD
In Palin We Trust @ 2:37,
Of course they did. It’s unrealistic to have any expectation that a government body, including the courts, will seriously entertain questions about Obama’s eligibility.
. Thank you drkate. Great article again.
on January 8, 2009 at 2:20 am Leza wrote and I paraphrase:
‘The Supreme Court has Obama at “checkmate” with their conferences on January 9th and 16th for Berg v Obama.”
To add to the points made, the Supreme Court could not act until after the EC vote count in Congress on January 8th (today) because according to the 12th amendment, Obama is not constitutionally recognized as President Elect until after the vote tally in Congress and he is confirmed as such. Prior to January 8th, he was the guy that won a national popular vote count and popular votes in enough states to qualify him in the Electoral College to go to the next step in the process but was never the President Elect.
The Supreme Court can only step in on matters that require interpretation of the Constitution. Now that Obama is the CONSTITUTIONAL President Elect, they can act. Berg v Obama cries out for constitutional interpretation!
If the Supreme Court decides to hear this case tomorrow, it is “game over” for Obama. If not, it is “game over” for our efforts to get at the truth!
drkate,
I am a mother, a Mormon, and I teach at a university. Thank you for your articles and your exhaustive research into these important topics. I am responding to your article, to your citing of the Mormon archives of Washington’s Vision, and to the link to the address by Ezra Taft Benson that you posted. I wanted to give you and the readers of this blog a little more perspective on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) and its relationship with the United States of America.
During the primary elections this year, I often felt infuriated at the media’s grilling of Mitt Romney, a Mormon, about the Church’s standing of not letting black men hold the priesthood until 1978. Did I feel it was wrong for people to question him about his church membership or to ask him about his response to that Church policy? No. I felt those were questions that needed to be asked so that the American public could understand the background to the Church’s policy and make an informed decision, especially since this election cycle seemed to revolve so much around racial issues. What did infuriate me was the absolute refusal of the media to question Barak Obama about his 20 membership in a church that was clearly racial and blatantly anti-American when they wanted to paint Mitt Romney and the LDS Church in the same light.
Let me tell you a little about the Mormon’s history in America. In the early 1800s, after its founding in New York, the Church’s membership migrated westward to Missouri. There they suffered severe persecution, including the burning of their homes, the murdering of their church leaders, and the raping of their women. The governor of Missouri, Lilburn Boggs, issued an extermination order against the Mormons, meaning that Missouri “militias,” no more than rabid mobs, could drive the Mormons from the state, confiscate their lands, and kill them with impunity. In response to this persecution, the Church’s membership moved to Illinois, where they built a city from a malaria-infested swamp, and called it Nauvoo, the “City Beautiful.” Within a few years, Nauvoo was the largest city in Illinois, boasting an extensive school system, printing presses, theaters, and stately brick homes. However, persecution again raged and forced the members to leave their homes at gun point, in the dead of winter, February 1846, and migrate across Iowa, in an American death-march that is little talked about in our public schools. After several failed Petitions for Redress to the Congress, to the President, to the Supreme Court for the loss of thousands of lives, and several millions of dollars in property and real estate, the Church’s new leader, Brigham Young, had a vision to lead the Mormon people outside the United States, to Utah, which was then Mexican territory.
In the midst of their suffering, and their being forced from the United States, a captain came with orders to conscript 500 Mormon men into the United States Army to fight against Mexico. The audacity of that move is incomprehensible to me. What is more incomprehensible is the response of my people. Even though the loss of so many able-bodied men would be devastating to their migration westward, outside the U.S., the Mormons still fulfilled their obligation to their country and to a government that had abandoned them in their greatest time of need. More than 500 Mormon men and a few women enlisted to form The Mormon Battalion and march over 2000 miles until finally being discharged in California in 1847.
The rest of the Church moved onward to Utah. On first arriving in the Salt Lake Valley, a barren desert, on July 24, 1847, one would expect that the Mormons would be more than bitter about their treatment by the United States of America. However, to the contrary, their first “Pioneer Day” Celebration, on July 24, 1849, was to be a celebration not of the Church or its founding, but of America. There were brass bands, parades, flags, and people carrying copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. On that day, one of the Church leaders came forward and said:
“Brethren and friends, we who have lived to three-score years, have beheld the government of the United States in its glory, and know that the outrageous cruelties we have suffered proceeded from a corrupted and degenerate administration, while the pure principles of our boasted Constitution remain unchanged. . . . As we have inherited the spirit of liberty and the fire of patriotism from our fathers, so let them descend [unchanged] to our posterity.” (Quoted in “The Test” by Boyd K. Packer, Ensign, November 2008, pp. 88-9)
Most Mormons, who are citizens of the United States and descendants of those pioneers, have an undying, tested love for our country. Utah, to this day, has a greater percentage, per capita, of its population enlisted or on active duty than almost any other state in the nation. I found it insulting and more than infuriating that Mitt Romney’s church, with such a history as I have outlined here, could come under intense scrutiny and attack, when Barak Obama’s incendiary preacher, father-figure, and mentor of 20 years could receive a pass for his blatant hatred for and near-treasonous remarks against the United States of America. And yet, Barak Obama will now be the commander-in-chief of the very country his reverend and mentor excoriated.
Have African-Americans suffered greatly at the hands of the government and of the people of this great nation? The answer is a resounding yes. But so have the Mormons. Governor Lilburn Boggs’ Extermination Order was not rescinded until the 1970s! It was technically legal in the state of Missouri to kill a Mormon without fear of punishment until that time. And yet, the current governor of Missouri campaigned extensively for Mitt Romney in 2008. We Mormons, as Christians, are more than willing to let bygones be bygones. The past must not be allowed to hold the future hostage. Loving your enemies, doing good to those who despitefully use you and persecute you are the foundations of Christianity, and any church that bears Christ’s name should be found not only espousing but living that doctrine.
I have been a member of the Church my entire life. My family have been members for generations. One of my ancestors left his family and marched in the Mormon Battalion in service to a country that had abandoned him. And yet, not in 1847, nor in 1849, nor at any time during my life, have I ever heard a disparaging remark about the United States of America spoken from the pulpit by a leader in a Mormon Church, and I have attended services across the country and across the world; nor am I aware of any such remarks in the records of our leaders’ speeches. Yet Mitt Romney continually had to answer questions about his faith and his church’s position on everything. In contrast, we have now elected a man who is a member of a church that has openly criticized, disparaged, and attacked our great nation, and even met with her enemies, and no one questioned Barak Obama about his church’s policies.
The readers of this blog and I may not agree on all issues, doctrinal or political. That is fine. That is the beauty of America. However, we can all agree that the ideals and the practical application of them as found in the Constitution of the United States of America are worth fighting for. I am not sure how the Congress or the Supreme Court will act or react in the coming days. And I must say that based on my ancestors’ experience with Petitions for Redress, I do not have much hope in that process either. However our official governmental bodies’ actions will not destroy America. America exists in the hearts and minds and souls of its people. That it is articulated and regulated in the Constitution, it is true; and while the election of a usurper legally makes that contract null and void and threatens the existence of the Union, America herself will still exist. While some succeeded in driving the Mormons out of the United States of America, they could never drive America out of the Mormons.
And so it must be in our time. Those of us who still love freedom, and still love America, must stand strong and stand together, no matter what our differences, and no matter what the response is to our redresses for wrong. We the people are America, and the choices we make in our individual spheres have the most important consequences. Let us make those choices that will have the greatest consequences for good in our generation and in those to come.
I believe that divine providence guides our country. Our Church leaders have continually emphasized that this country and its Constitution were founded by divine inspiration (see the Doctrine and Covenants of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, sections 98, 101, and 135). I know that God will listen to and answer our prayers for our country’s protection, if we, too, are willing to fight for and protect it.
Thank you, Dr. Kate, and TD, and Judah Benjamin. Please keep up this dialogue and your vigilance in informing others of what you know.
texasdarlin,
I wish with all my being I could disagree with you but since I live in a world of reality I must agree.
Sure would like to proven wrong though.
TD ….I know you dont like mentioning API but I just saw on Hot Air they are suing Fox News.
Yankeegirl
If Obama Jr. was born while Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and Barack Obama Sr. were married, then he is the legal child of the Obamas. Even if Dunham conceived the child with Frank Marshall Davis while still married to Obama, the child would be considered the offspring of the legal father at the time of birth. Only DNA could prove whether Davis was his father, but even then, he was legally the child of the two Obamas.
I don’t think that you can declare a different father on a legal document if you are married to someone at the time of birth. I would think that you would have to legally change the responsibility of the father. I realize that in this day and age, lots of birth certificates don’t even list the father’s name. Then they can legally go by the mother’s last name, unless the name of the father is later revealed and you have it legally changed.
At least this is the way it used to be. Has this changed? There are a lot of single mothers using their maiden names for their children because the father hasn’t been declared. I believe the father’s name has to be on the BC to be considered as his legal father.
Mormon Patriot
Amen.
If SCOTUS received any information from the Office of the President, it would’ve been through Cheney. Maybe Cheney left open a door for objection to procedure later on. Maybe he did not want to stir the pot before SCOTUS gets their game on. Maybe there were no objections placed before him. George Washington would’ve objected however. All of Congress and the Senate need “WWGD” bracelets. Ann Coulter was right on in how jugears has been treated with kid gloves, in the media, and also by Congress/Senate. The commies just hate her free speech in pointing up their hypocrisies. Obama hasn’t even coughed up so much as a transcript, it looks for now that he simply purchased diplomas. And for teaching Constitutional law, by his actions it’s obvious he doesn’t know squatdiddly about it.
“When the Obama family materialized, the media was seized by a mass psychosis that hadn’t been witnessed since Beatlemania. OK! magazine raved that the Obamas “are such an all-American family that they almost make the Brady Bunch look dysfunctional.” Yes, who can forget the madcap episode when the Bradys’ wacky preacher tells them the government created AIDS to kill blacks!
Still gushing, OK! magazine’s crack journalists reported: “Mom goes to bake sales, dad balances the checkbook, and the girls love Harry Potter” — and then the whole family goes to a racist huckster who shouts, “God damn America!”
Months before network anchors were interrogating vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on the intricacies of foreign policy, here is how NBC’s Brian Williams mercilessly grilled presidential candidate Barack Obama: “What was it like for you last night, the part we couldn’t see, the flight to St. Paul with your wife, knowing what was awaiting?”
Twisting the knife he had just plunged into Obama, Williams followed up with what has come to be known as a “gotcha” question: “And you had to be thinking of your mother and your father.” Sarah Palin was memorizing the last six kings of Swaziland for her media interviews, but Obama only needed to say something nice about his parents to be considered presidential material.
The media’s fawning over Obama knew no bounds, and yet, in the midst of the most incredible media conspiracy to turn this jug-eared clodhopper into some combination of Winston Churchill and a young Elvis, you were being a bore if you mentioned the liberal media. Oh surely we’ve exploded that old chestnut. … Look! Look, Obama just lit up another Marlboro! Geez, does smoking make you look cool, or what! Yeah, Obama!.
The claim that there’s no such thing as a left wing press is a patent lie said to enrage conservatives. Newspapers read like the press under Kim Jung Il, which, outside of a police state, looks foolish. The prose is straight out of The Daily Worker, full of triumphal rhetoric with implicit exclamation points. Still, their chanted slogans fill your brain, like one of those bad songs you can’t stop humming.
There is no other explanation for the embarrassing paeans to Obama’s “eloquence.” His speeches were a run-on string of embarrassing, sophomoric Hallmark card bromides. It seemed only a matter of time before Obama would slip and tell a crowd what a special Dad it had always been to him.
The major theme of Obama’s campaign was the audacity of his running for president. He titled his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, “The Audacity of Hope” –- named after a sermon given by his spiritual mentor Jeremiah Wright, whom we were not allowed to mention without being accused of playing dirty tricks. (Rejected speech titles from sermons by Rev. Wright included “God Damn America!,” “The U.S. of K.K.A.” and “The Racist United States of America.”)
What is so audacious about announcing that you’re running for president? Every U.S. Senator has run for president or is currently thinking about running for president. Dennis Kucinich ran for president. Lyndon LaRouche used to run for president constantly.
But the media were giddy over their latest crush. Even when Obama broke a pledge and rejected public financing for his campaign — an issue more dear to The New York Times than even gay marriage — the Times led the article on Obama’s broken pledge with his excuse. “Citing the specter of attacks from independent groups on the right,” the Times article began, “Sen. Barack Obama announced Thursday that he would opt out of the public financing system for the general election.”
So he had to break his pledge because he was a victim of the Republican Attack Machine.
When Obama broke his word and voted for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act bill (FISA), the Times’ editorial began: We are shocked and dismayed by Sen. Obama’s vote on … oh, who are we kidding? We can’t stay mad at this guy! Isn’t he just adorable? Couldn’t you just eat him up with a spoon? Is he looking at me? Ohmigod, I think he’s looking at me!!!! Couldn’t you just die?
It has ever been thus. “
The Constitution states that a President must be a “natural born” citizen.
Obama has said that he’s a “native” citizen and a “naturalized” citizen.
Has this man who studied Constitutional Law at Harvard University ever stated that he’s a “natural born” citizen?
If not, then it appears that he knows the difference even if our elected officials and the Supreme Court refuse to raise the question.
John Mirse–about Pelosi’s “verification” or whatever it is–
You didn’t need to go any further than point 1, How could she in good conscience. No conscience. Therefore anything goes including making the whole story up, although actually, I am suspicious of the Hawaiian one being different due to Nancy’s efforts. I suspect rather someone in Hawaii, someone in govt. who, like others in other states, feels some need to go to O’s defense.
I found a copy of the Constitution Article II on the Cornell Law University website that states:
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
“Or” a citizen of the United States? Where does it state “born to two U.S. citizens?” It doesn’t even imply this. Maybe this is why we are being ignored? It sounds like EITHER a natural born citizen OR a citizen of the United States, doesn’t it? Not so cut and dried, unfortunately.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section1
tanarg and others wanting to get the attention of the media and others….
One sure way to get attention is if all who are frustrated and believe me it’s countless…
Maybe we should refuse to pay our taxes!
If they can break the rules then maybe we should…If there are enough of us doing just that, it seems they will have to explain why so many are refusing to pay!
Just a desperate thought…
Thank you for Mormon Patriot I must agree with the differances that were very apparent in the Primaries in the way Mitt was treated regarding being a Mormon.
And the way still today people explain away Obama sitting in that Church for 20 yrs and the speech he gave that was supposed to make that all okie-dokie.
I for one have been flabbergasted ever since. The entire episode would have knocked anyone else out of the race within a week imho.
My husband I know mentioned a couple of times he wouldn’t mind Mitt Romney as POTUS and we are life long Dems whose first choice was Hillary.
Wasn’t a problem , we were more about issues and who we thought was best at this difficult time in the history of our country to lead.
Dear Feeling hoodwinked,
Have you seen proof that BHOSr and Stanley Ann were married? I have heard that someone has seen a divorce decree, but again, we are short on all these documents. My belief in the Frank Davis-as-Dad “theory” is the physical resemblance Barack has to photos of Davis, more so than to the very African BHOSr; Davis had a son by his 2nd wife, a white woman. Maybe we can get his DNA and compare it to BHO’s; the Kansas connection between Ann Dunham’s left-leaning father and Davis; the mention in Barack’s book (perhaps really authored by Chicagoan Bill Ayers) of Frank Davis, who trained at the Lincoln School in Chicago, preparing to work as a labor agitator in HI during and after WWII, and who served as a mentor to young Barack in Hawaii and who helped him develop a black identity which he lacked growing up with his grandparents in HI. These are the “Dreams From My Father” Barack is talking about. Not to mention being adopted by an Indonesian Muslim kind of goofing up his status as a Natural-born American!
It’s a very strange and complicated story and most people (and Supreme Court Justices) just don’t have time to get to the bottom of it. Most of the folks posting on this website are only after one thing — The Truth. And this is why we feel so frustrated, to put it mildly.
BTW, I purchased a “GLOBE” tabloid at the Rite-Aid yesterday with the blazing cover headline, “Where was Obama REALLY born?” and down-page, “Is his Inauguration LEGAL?” Good questions. Time for answers.
I am ready to send my Petition for Redress. Any ideas as to who, where, How Many?
Thanks,
Wendy in Texas
I’d say the public schools created an electorate ripe for Obama’s election. By creating an electorate that doesn’t know basic economics or American history, public education ensure we have years of this wonderfulness ahead of us.
To All Military Personnel and Everyone Who Loves Them:
I posted a template of the Military Complaint v. Barack Obama on my blog. Please feel free to use this. Copy the language exactly, filling in only the information specific to your Complaint, including the names of the military Plaintiffs and their identifying facts; and the federal court in which the Complaint will be filed.
In this document, I tried really hard not to sound hyperbolic; or conspiratorial, so as to minimize the chance that the substance of the Complaint, which is to obtain a court ruling on whether BO is a NBC, will be lost because people dismissed its authenticity for reasons of style. But here is the added value of this approach. BO opposed Berg’s Motion for a Declaratory Judgment stating that he – BO – did not have to prove he was Constitutionally eligible for the job of POTUS because Berg lacked particularized standing to ask, as required under the federal Declaratory Judgment Act. I read that Opposition; that’s what gave me the idea of using military Plaintiffs in the first place. (Until after the general election, I was too busy putting out fires to concentrate on the horror that BO might actually win.) So, I fashioned the perfect Plaintiffs. But BO also argued, Declaratory Judgment is a procedural fix; there must be an underlying legal cause of action which Berg lacked. Well, the Declaratory Judgment Act says, an imminent Defendant can be the Plaintiff in a Declaratory Judgment case. And military personnel who would honor their oaths to support and defend the Constitution and who share a good faith belief BO is Constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS subject themselves to prosecution as Defendants under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Now, regardless of how BO attempts to contest the standing of military Plaintiffs, the damage is already done. That is, what do you think would be the fallout if he responds to soldiers who would put their lives on the line for our country with more legal technicalities aimed to block proof he is eligible to be their CIC?
After this Complaint is filed and served on Defendant, a court date will be set. Before that time, I will have perfected and posted the legal memorandum that will accompany Plaintiffs into court.
One more item, in light of today’s decision by members of Congress to Certify the EC vote. I filled the Complaint with rationalizations from members of Congress who deigned to ‘educate’ their constituents challenges to BO’s eligibility for POTUS were unfounded. I can only conclude that those legislators who are not too corrupt to protect the United States from a Constitutionally ineligible POTUS; are either too stupid or too cowardly to act in the best interest of the country. They all must be replaced at the next Congressional election.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
jbjd
@ reps and Leza
‘The Supreme Court has Obama at “checkmate” with their conferences on January 9th and 16th for Berg v Obama.”
Exactly. We don’t need them to rule one way or another tomorrow – just allow discovery. Obama MUST be forced to lift the veil over all this secrecy.
Of, course, SCOTUS could just get up and walk away and not finish the game.
“Even when Obama broke a pledge and rejected public financing for his campaign — an issue more dear to The New York Times than even gay marriage — the Times led the article on Obama’s broken pledge with his excuse. “Citing the specter of attacks from independent groups on the right,” the Times article began, “Sen. Barack Obama announced Thursday that he would opt out of the public financing system for the general election.”
So he had to break his pledge because he was a victim of the Republican Attack Machine.”
mccain can look right in the mirror for the responsibility for that one. the republicans had way more money in their 527 organizations, and obama had a huge edge in campaign fundraising. when they discussed it, obama said that he’d take public money as long as mccain agreed not to use the 527s. a reasonably fair swap. mccain said he couldn’t promise anything, so obama nixed the deal. mccain had cash issues and took the public funds.
you wouldn’t lay down your guns in a battle if your enemy said that he would, but he couldn’t make any promises about his ten friends in the bushes.
A moment for posterity. For all the wrong reasons.
Congress joint session.
“Electoral Votes Confirm Obama.”
It really starts at 06:35. Before that, is just Pelosi over-showing her dentures and a zooming on a funny lady holding the Congressmen weapon of choice for cutting and pasting the inconvenient parts of the Constitution (at 06:17).
Most readings conform to this language: Mr. President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of (Whatever state) seems to be regular in form and authentic and appears therefrom that Sen. Obama/McCain of the state of Illinois/Arizona received x/amount of votes for President and Biden/Palin of the state of Delaware/Alaska received x/amount votes for Vice-President.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-R-14052
just one point about the SCOTUS checkmate on Obama.
Sup Justice Roberts is currently petitioning Congress for salary increases for all judiciary personnel since unlike Congress who receive COLA increases automatically, the judiciary’s increases must be voted upon by Congress. And Congress has not proposed increases last sessions. Will they be forced to do so this session? Is this what Roberts is really trying to gain with the docket? Why not, the SCOTUS is not immune from engaging in politics per “Storm Center”.
I pretty much agree that NO ONE wants to formally stop the inauguration of the PEBO. So SCOTUS is really concerned about something else here, and that’s $$$$$$ money. Who’s got who by the balls?
Damn, I was hopeful until I read about this yesterday. Then Obama also throws the Republicans an extortion bone with his overhaul of SSA.
But wonderful work by everyone. Even if the Washingon vision is a hoax, I’m still quaking in my boots, as I do when reading Nostrodamus and the Bible. After all it is Armaggedon week on cable TV.
And, Dr. Kate, I love the idea of petitioning Congress because wouldn’t that at the minimum become news the MSM would have to report? How about if millions of Americans just decided not to file or pay their taxes as protest? We could say ‘you don’t get our money PEBO until you show us the documentation.’ One can dream anyway.
takebackAmerica NOW – LOLH…..thanks, I needed that today….
….and let’s not forget Chris Matthews with the “tingle up his leg” (or was that “tinkle down his leg”??)- it’s enough to make a person want to vomit either way…..LOL
Actually hearing the clip with Cheney annoucing BO has received necessary electoral votes to become our next POTUS today – with no objections – just – well – made me sick to my stomach – again…..
OK, I think I’m going to read your post again so I can laugh some more…..
Observor~
“Obama has said that he’s …. a “naturalized” citizen.”
Can you link that?
I know he claims “native”, but have not seen his claim of “naturalized”.
Thanks.
Observor~
I don’t believe he has claimed to be a “natural born citizen”.
He has claimed to be a “native citizen”. They are not the same.
Mormon Patriot – your post brought me to tears.
Could there be a class action PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES filed with many thousands of conservative people signing electronically, along with ONE BRAVE PATRIOTIC ATTORNEY Representing 50 courageous patriotic plaintiffs From all 50 States in the Union?
I would love to be a part of such an action.
Virginia McFarland
Ok what I hear thru the grapevine is
BoBo must be sworn in otherwise he is “not” elected yet!!!!…As in you will have a car accident tomorrow. It just hasn’t happen yet! So now that he is sworn in…. the games can begin. We will get the Ball Rolling……
Math on ages of S.ann dunham/FM davis?
Is he really Bo’s daddy? He takes on the looks of his gramp Stanley…chin ears etc. (not sure)
The very thought that Bo will place his hand on Lincoln’s Bible makes me weak at the knees!!!!
Who is Mr. Barack H/S Obama?????
Will someone get off the meds uppers/downers the porn sites/the cell phone etc. etc. etc. and help shake this loose so “We The People” who would and might DIE for this county….Get a true answer? Before he dies of “old” age!!!!!!
12 days……to go……
Hoodwinked: read that Const carefully, you can only be POTUS as “just” a US Citizen at the time of the ratification of the Constitution. Jugears isn’t THAT old, but then again who really knows?
My favorite line from Coulter’s blurb:
“Sarah Palin was memorizing the last six kings of Swaziland for her media interviews, but Obama only needed to say something nice about his parents to be considered presidential material.”
Feeling Hoodwinked –
“or citizen of the United States — at the time of the adoption of this Constitution”
The founders excluded themselves with that phrase. Obviously only the first part “natural born citizen” would apply now.
jbjd contact Dr Orly Taitz
Check with Dr Orly Taitz
dr_taitz@yahoo.com.
She has been seeking military personnel to participate:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/
“Sign up to become a plaintiff if you are active or retired military”
http://defendourfreedoms.org/ATTENTIONALLMILITARYPERSONNEL.htm
I am coming to the conclusion that the reason for the total lack of concern and arrogant flaunting of the issue by the Obama gang re his status as a nbc, is that they knew no one would attempt to mess with him on this for numerous reasons. As a supposed constitutional specialist (in his mind anyway) he and the people plotting his ascension to the Pres. bet on the fact that NO ONE really can define or has defined, with words agreeable and understandable to all, what constitutes a natural born citizen under the Constitution. They gambled (or maybe unduly, unethically persuaded) that those who could have some power to question and demand he authenticate his eligibility would not attempt it for political reasons. They knew none of the congressional members would have the political ba**s to take the chance of being wrong and losing everything including the Clintons. The SC is probably the only one who can interpret what the phrase means once and for all re the Constitution, but they so far have not been inclined to take it on. There is no one who will get this issue defined and applied re Obama et al, unless the SC does it imo. I don’t think they have the guts to disrupt the country at this point and didn’t do it earlier for some unknown reason, when it would have been much less disruptive. I think the SC will rely on the Congress to keep OB in check for 4 years and only step in at the request of something that comes from that arena. They seem to want nothing to do with it yet. I sincerely hope they change their minds or have something in the works that will become apparent in the next few days, but I am thinking it won’t happen. I am reluctantly preparing for a long 4 years and hoping for the best. Great work as usual Dr. Kate.
Well, RedDress, perhaps he is…..The One- just as Oprah said he was. (I did not just post that! I di’int! ) One has to note how he came from NOWHERE and the world ADORES him (except for the patriots and those successfully marginalized/ labeled “religious nuts”. ) Let’s just watch his performance in the Middle East. Peace & security, as is written. Obamanation of desolation!
I did not just post that! If Obama can become President of the formerly free world, plausible denial works for me too.
DrKate,
Thank you for your wonderful and thought provoking comments and articles, they truly show you as a true American Patiriot. May God bless you for your dedication.
Now on another note:
There is not one of our elected or appointed officials who had the testicular fortitude to at least ask the simple question of whether or not Soetoro is Constitutionally Qualified. Each and every one of them should be fired; however, that is just my simple minded opinion.
see following link:
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/
However, I did get a chance to review the article in the Washington Post citing California had 55 votes, which should have invalidated the results due to the fact one of them was dead…go figure…God Bless America, our elected officials should hang their heads in disgrace…and run for the hills…they are a disgrace to America and now we are the laughing stock of the World…sorry fellow patiriots…
God Bless our Troops and all those who are fighting for our lives and rights in this Great Country of ours.
All, Read my posts on the recent area of the 09 Fundraiser link. I am uncovering alot of info. Help. I am connecting Bernadine Dohrn to the family now too. You want answers-here you go, and report addl info you find as well. This has to be a group, concentrated effort, as the links are unbelievable !
@IPWT at 2:37 – I listened for it and I did not hear Cheney call for objections. That part of the petition probably needs to be revised after we see the transcript in the Congressional Record.
Was this a simple slip? Is it a violation of protocol or of the law?
Ed Hale just released new pages from the Soetoro/Dunham
divorce. It reads that they separated and she went back to Hawaii in 1974……….AND……….
Ann was living in a 4 bedroom house with 2 full time domestic servants!!!!!!! Supplied by her employer, the
United States Agency of International Development.
So, Barack was all BS when he said he grew up on food stamps.
What’s UP DOC!
What I read is that Obama knows all of the stuff we are doing…..
And he might just use some of our ideas to try to wiggle his butt out of it!
But tight lips…won’t sink his ship….
So they stay sealed because right now he can get away with it!
….like no witness no crime! Laywers jiveness!
He know’s we know that he is guilty……
I still wonder if he has a way out and will grind it in
our faces later…..Shame Shame Shame!!!!
I wonder how may folks have been threatened so far
Media etc. etc.
I feel this can be the reason….and we will see more of it to come. But some are spinless farts!
Thanks for all of you …thank you all!
Oh my Mormon Patriot, thank you, thank you, you almost brought me to tears. That was beautifully written and completely inspiring to me. My husband’s family is Mormon and came by handcart across the plains to Salt Lake, his great-great grandfather was Ebenzer Beesley who became the director of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. He is very proud of his heritage as well he should be. You should consider publishing this somewhere as the contrasts between the media’s treatment of Romney and Obama (and frankly anyone at all and Obama) is so well drawn in your writing, thanks for sharing.
Pink Elephant: “Because he traveled on a foreign visa AFTER he attained the age of majority. This very act of traveling on a foreign visa, makes it utterly manifestly clear that he in fact retained his Indonesian citizenship.”
We dont KNOW this, it is speculative. It’s been said he did not have a U.S. passport till he got his Congressional one, but I don’t know if there is definitive proof.
“But there’s also the fact that he even recently is alleged to have traveled on a foreign passport when he traveled to Kenya in support of Odinga.”
This is not true. In 2006 he traveled to Kenya on his Congressional passport, and in fact the Kenyan govt complained to the U.S. State Dept about his actions. (I do have a link to news article, but not on this computer.)
Thoth: “Travel to Pakistan was not banned in 1981. It was advised against.”
PAKISTAN did not permit Americans to enter the country except for diplomats, and Obama was not a diplomat. Thus we infer that he must have been travelling with another country’s passport, not as U.S. citizen.
He also traveled to Kenya in 1987, I believe. If he truly did not have a U.S. passport before he got his Congressional one, he had to have used a passport from another country. In 1981 he was under 21, but in 1987 he was certainly over 21.
Feeling Hoodwinked: re Art. 2:
Read the rest of the clause after “or a citizen” — “or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution.” That was the grandfather clause for current residents of the new U.S., no one alive today fits that category.
And no, this article does not state “born of 2 U.S. citizens.” To understand what the term “natural born” meant to the framers, we have to go to contemporary writings that they would have been familiar with and used. THAT is where we get the “born to 2 U.S. citizens.”
Yankeegirl: “Have you seen proof that BHOSr and Stanley Ann were married? I have heard that someone has seen a divorce decree, but again, we are short on all these documents.”
No, not short. Check investigatingobama.blogspot.com for copy of divorce decree. It specifies date and place of marriage and names Obama as child of the marriage.
I Have a picture of Barack Obama with his Grandma Sarah Obama. The both have the exact same squinting expressions on their faces. If you look closely at the picture, there is no mistaking that he is her Grandson. Their Faces look Almost Identical except his face is Light Tan and her face is Dark Brown. They look to much alike to believe they are not related.
The resolution is just what we need. Are you going to gather signatures or submit it to Congress as it is? I think a copy should be sent to the Supreme Court so they know what’s coming if they don’t act.
Thank you for posting the visions of George Washington. These were certainly prophetic. We are in the third stage now, where all the clouds cover our country in darkness. If the prophecy is correct, we will overcome, but it will take all of us working together. Let’s have faith in God and in ourselves, through him, that we can protect our Constitution and our freedom, and free ourselves from the present tyranny of our government.
Mormon Patriot, Good post ! My Grandfather was Irish from Mo. He was Mormon, and was one of those you describe above. Left Mo in his youth, and headed south. He spoke your exact story in my childhood. He also, served and loved his country alot. Excellent read.
Yet again:
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/945/story/438851.html
Broe v. Reed (Washington State) granting Reed’s request to dismiss, WITHOUT COMMENT.
So, a thumb of the nose again . . .
Dr. Kate: Thank you for your latest contribution – I always look forward to and appreciate your articles.
Mormon Patriot: Thank you for sharing the struggle Mormons have had to endure – very moving.
Yankee Girl:
The Obama divorce papers can be found at the following link:
http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1666
http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
I took the red pill, truthseeker, et al: thanks for the tips.
Forgot to add the link.
http://www.plainsradio.com/chat1.html
then scroll down and click on the 1980 Additional Divorce Papers.
There’s other information there as well.
>BoBo must be sworn in otherwise he is “not” elected yet!!!!
i want some of whatever you’re smoking.
he was elected on december 15 by the electoral college. congress certified the election today. zero senators opted to rise to a point of order to contest any electoral votes cast. obama is the president-elect. full stop, end of story.
but after january 20. you have a chance to make a stand.
if you’re in the military, say that you can’t follow deployment orders because you believe them to be illegal. be sure to explain exactly why in the presence of at least one other person. an officer would be best. i bet you’ll learn a lot about the ucmj.
if you’re a taxpayer, tell the irs you’re not paying until the government starts working for the people again. i bet you’ll learn a lot about prison love.
if you do either of these things, bad stuff will probably happen to you. desertion and tax evasion are felonies. so i don’t think those are great ideas. but if that sort of thing works for you, go nuts with it.
Richard @ 11:17: “I Have a picture of Barack Obama with his Grandma Sarah Obama. … They look to much alike to believe they are not related.”
They’re not related, Sarah is Obama’s step-grandmother.
Still4Hill “Is it a violation of protocol or of the law?”
Looks to me like “misprision” – failure of performing the law.
See Title 3 U.S.C. Ch 1 Sect 15.
Hey– someone put this link out on one of the threads, and I just gotta give kudos– It is really eye-opening!! There was a LOT more about O than even the things I’ve read in the blogs– a lot of details and put in a timeline- and includes citations/footnotes for sources. Very good!
It is a bit long, but well worth the read: http://www.colony14.net/id41.html
Also, I’m sure this would be approved by O and his crew– and hey, even the MSM would love it. As a matter of fact, I bet they’re next!
joe the cynic:
I calculate that 75% of America DID NOT VOTE FOR 0bama, and if they had known the truth about this fraud, many of those that did, never would have.
IT’S TIME TO TAKE BACK STATES RIGHTS.
AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED NOR DESERVE THIS POWER OVER OUR LIVES
STATES RIGHTS
STATES RIGHTS
STATES RIGHTS
Revised short Obama Qualifications Redress Petition
Here is an updated short one page Petition for Redress of Grievances to challenge President elect Obama’s qualifications. PDF, Word, WordPerfect & RTF versions posted at axtk.com
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Re: Petition for Point of order: Barack H. Obama II has failed to qualify for president.
Grievance: Barack Hussein Obama II a.k.a. Barry Soetoro is not qualified to become president, having had primary allegiances to other nations, and not providing unambiguous evidence he is a “natural born Citizen” without other allegiance, to satisfy the Constitution Article 2 Sect. 1 and 2.
Prayer: By your oath to uphold the Constitution, your duty to uphold Amendment 20 §3, your privilege to raise a Point of Order, by the 10th Amendment powers retained by We the People, and by the right of petition for redress of grievances, I pray that you raise a Point of Order in Congress challenging the qualifications of the President Elect Barack Hussein Obama II, namely:
“I raise a Point of Order that the President Elect, Barack Hussein Obama II, has failed to qualify for president per the Constitution Amendment 20 §3, Article II, §1, §2 having “Foreign Allegiances” by birth and adoption, by renouncing US citizenship, and by failing to provide unambiguous evidence that he is “a natural born Citizen” having only had undivided allegiance, election of a President who does qualify having precedence over other business of this House.
1 Mr. Obama having had conflicting “Foreign Allegiance”(s) cannot become Commander in Chief having sole allegiance to the USA, and thus cannot qualify as “a natural born Citizen”.
1.1 Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Barak Obama, has first allegiance to Indonesia, having Indonesian citizenship with renunciation of US citizenship, by adoption by Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, a citizen of Indonesia, per Constitution of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958, Art. 2 (1), as required to enroll in Indonesian schools, per school records, 1980 divorce decree, and travel to Pakistan in 1981; and
1.2 Mr. Obama had first allegiance to the British Crown and to Kenya, being born a citizen of Kenya through his Kenyan birth father Barack Obama, Sr., per Chapter VI. Sections 87 and 97 of the Constitution of Kenya; and being a bipatride under the U.K. Nationality Act of 1948.
2. By the condition “have failed to qualify” in Amendment 20, §3, Mr. Obama has the burden of proof to exhibit in Congress unambiguous evidence that he qualifies, as a “natural born Citizen” born to two US citizens “in the allegiance of the United States” while meeting statutory citizenship requirements, and he that retained that exclusive allegiance to qualify as Commander in Chief.
2.1 Mr. Obama has sealed all unambiguous original evidence needed to qualify, including his original vault-version birth certificate, all other legal birth certificate versions, records and passports;
2.2 Mr. Obama’s Kenyan paternal step grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama states that she was present at his birth in (Mombasa) Kenya, per Affidavits of Bishop Ron McRae and of Rev. Kweli Shuhubia in Philip J. Berg v. Barack Hussein Obama et al. U.S.C. No. 08A505; and
2.3 Lightfoot v. Bowen U.S.C. No. 08A524 documents further supporting facts and law.”
Signature:_______________________________________________
Name:__________________________________________________
Address:________________________________________________
_____________________________City__________________
County: __________________State:____ ZipCode______________
Notary: I certify that _______________________personally appeared
before me on _________________, 2009 in ___________County, State of ______________.
Hm. A reply from “CalifGirlInMaine” (I did see someone responding to “Toth”, but their comment did not seem related to any of mine, so I suppose that’s someone else).
“Thoth: “Travel to Pakistan was not banned in 1981. It was advised against.”
PAKISTAN did not permit Americans to enter the country except for diplomats, and Obama was not a diplomat. Thus we infer that he must have been travelling with another country’s passport, not as U.S. citizen.
He also traveled to Kenya in 1987, I believe. If he truly did not have a U.S. passport before he got his Congressional one, he had to have used a passport from another country. In 1981 he was under 21, but in 1987 he was certainly over 21.”
Lets check: Hm… No travel ban listed for Pakistan in 1981 checking state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3453.htm . For comparison, travel restrictions to Libya can be found listed in their article on the same site. Sorry, but there are a variety of newspaper articles and other materials from US citizens traveling to Pakistan during the period available. For that matter, the INS makes available quite a lot of information in PDF form: according to their “Citizenship” pdf even if it had been necessary to use a foreign passport to enter Pakistan at the time, this is both allowable if you had one available and does not affect US citizenship.
Has anyone ever considered suing Nancy Pelosi for falsifying records?
Richard:
“I Have a picture of Barack Obama with his Grandma Sarah Obama. The both have the exact same squinting expressions on their faces. If you look closely at the picture, there is no mistaking that he is her Grandson. Their Faces look Almost Identical except his face is Light Tan and her face is Dark Brown. They look to much alike to believe they are not related.”
As far as I’ve heard, Grandma Sarah is his Step-Grandma. She was not Obama Sr.’s mother and no blood relation to Barry.
To Elliewyatt 1/8/09 7:43pm,
see this
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/obama-not-eligible-obama-not-natural-born-citizen-obama-signature-on-arizona-candidate-nomination-paper-moniquemonicat-blog-did-obama-commit-fraud-did-obama-lie/
for the ‘presidential …nomination paper’ to the state of Arizona where he swears he is a natural born citizen on 11/30/07!
And he sponsors resolution 511 where everone says a nbc is one born to 2 US citizen parents! Obviously Obama, the one, is not bound by any earthly rules or resolutions!
Dr. Kate,
The $1,000,000 in lawyer’s fees has been bandied about on the internet with no backup documentation. I recommend that unless you are able to document that amount as having been spent by Obama to fight this case, you consider removing it from the petition.
Anyone who receives the petition will be looking for some way to discredit it. Once they break down one piece, they will dismiss the whole thing.
Thanks. You’ve put a lot of information into very few words. (I also like the additions put in by David L. Hagen (Jan 8, 09, @ 12:37 AM)).
Israil & Ghaza http://www.iranontop.com
TD~
I am going to watch closely the eye contact between the Chief Justice and Obama during the Inauguration. What will each be thinking of the other? Roberts has read the suits before the Supreme Court, and Obama knows it!
Roberts is thinking:
Obama is thinking:
It would make an interesting thread, and probably, quite hilarious!
Susie Orman was on Larry King last night. She always preaches personal financial responsibilty, but last night, she gleefully endorsed Obama’s policies. It struck me as very odd. What am I missing?
We may as well face it. There is not one single elected official in this country who cares didly-squat about the Constitution. I have cried myself a pounding headache. All the letters I have written, the emails I’ve sent and the phone calls I’ve made have meant nothing. At first I was just resigned to forget it and accept that which I could do nothing about. After about 5 mnutes of that, I remembered what our forefathers sacrificed to found this Republic and decided I would continue to fight as long as I can breathe even if I continue to be ignored by those who swore to protect the Constitution and didn’t.
I have no faith in the SCOTUS at this point. I don’t think they have the backbone to do their job. I hope I am mistaken, but I can’t believe they would have let it goes this far if they intended to act. I anything is done about this travesty of justice it will have to be done by the common man and woman again as it was done in 1776.
Those who have the power to protect our country are too busy protecting their own backsides and pocketbooks.
In this time of financial collapse of our country Congress votes themselves a raise in pay, and the SCOTUS is crying out for more for themselves. It is obvious none of them remember when JFK said “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”. It’s all for self – from the top to the bottom.
Thanks TD, Dr. Kate, Judah Benjamin and all the posters at this site for your dedication. It has been a privilege to come here and know that there are many others who feel the same way I do. We have many trials facing us and this site gives us courage to continue.
MormonPatriot, I have the utmost respect for the Mormons, and agree that the ObamaMedia focused a spotlight on Mitt’s religion, and his religion alone whereas, Obama got a free pass for his 20 year membership in a church that excoriated the country that Obama will lead. It’s mind boggling.
(OT-sorry)
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I believe it was Nathaniel Branden who observed that cynics are actually very naïve.
Mormon Patriot: Moving, inspiring. Thank you.
mcclaud: “Washington was a small deist at best.”
While the Prayer Journal is not a good source, you don’t have to look further than his Thanksgiving proclamation of 10/3/1789, or his first inaugural address, to know that he relied on and believed in divine Providence. This belief is a common thread in the founders’ writings, and our founding documents. Denying or downplaying the role of God in our heritage has us drowning in moral relativism and PC rot.
http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/thanksgiving/transcript.html
Whether the vison is true or not, the only army that exists out of Europe, Asia, and Africa is already here. CAIR, Muslims of the Americas, and Jemaat ul-Fuqra are all fronts.
Everybody,
We need to send out the ‘Petition for redress of grievances regarding the failure to challenge the constitutional qualifications of BHO to serve as POTUS’ at the following link (Plains radio message forum)
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/956825
click message forum, choose ‘a petition for redress’ by truthseeker, scroll down to David L Hogen’s message, copy the REVISED draft. It has even more details! Notarize your signature and send to Justice Roberts by 1/15 before he hears the case.
Also for military personnel, see
jbjd.wordpress.com
for ‘Template for military complaint against Obama’
It is excellent. You sure have standing and your voice should be heard. You are at great risk under Obama the potentially fake CIC.
elliewyatt
Observor~
I don’t believe he has claimed to be a “natural born citizen”.
He has claimed to be a “native citizen”. They are not the same.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++He claims to be a citizen of the world……that means he is not “natural born” and has said it over and over. No one on the HIll is paying attention to us meager citizens. This must all change if we want to retain our rights and freedoms. DO I HEAR REVOLUTION ON THE HORIZON?????
Well, finally, here’s Senator Inhofe’s reply.
Basically, more of the same – of course, now I know he is “my voice in WA & he appreciates knowing my concerns.”…. Woohoo…oh and hey, at least I can contact him again – so there’s that… and he “certainly can appreciate the need for proper review” – of course, he isn’t going to DO anything about it – but hey, at least he can appreciate it…
- Not good news, but thought I should pass it on –
From: Jim_Inhofe@inhofe.senate.gov [mailto:Jim_Inhofe@inhofe.senate.gov]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:38 AM
To:
Subject: Responding to your message
Dear Mrs:
Thank you for your correspondence. As your voice in Washington, I appreciate knowing your concerns.
There is a considerable amount of information circulating over the Internet making various claims about Senator Obama, including that he was not born in Hawaii and has not provided a valid birth certificate as proof he is a natural born citizen. Likewise, there was information on the Internet claiming Senator John McCain was not eligible to run for President due to an alleged lack of U.S. jurisdiction over the military installation in Panama Canal in which Senator McCain was born. These issues have resulted in a number of unsuccessful legal filings challenging the natural born citizen qualification of both Senators Obama and McCain. The most recent of these cases was dismissed in the U.S. Supreme Court on December 8, 2008.
Specifically, with regard to Senator Obama’s birth certificate, in June 2008, Senator Obama produced a certificate of live birth from the State of Hawaii Department of Health, which has been available for inspection by various news media over the past number of months. In addition, Hawaii’s Health director, in October, has verified that the Health Department has Senator Obama’s original birth certificate on file.
I can certainly appreciate the need for the appropriate review to ensure all candidates for the Presidency meet the basic requirements in the Constitution. Again, thank you for bringing your concerns to my attention. Please do not hesitate to contact me again.
Someone wrote: We need our government to give us a definition of the term. LOL!!!!
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My statement was not intended to amuse you or the other poster who disagreed with it.
Perhaps I should have said it this way:
Because there is no explicit legal definition of the term, the intent of the founders needs to be stated unambigulusly by the Supreme Court. If there is such a definition promulgated, then it would be immediately clear to all people who read it (a) who is qualified to be president of the United States and (b) who is not so qualified. Then, it would be clear that Obama is not qualified.
Hoodwinked,
They used extra commas in those days, so you need to read as “or a U.S. citizen at the time of the the adoption of this Constititution,” which referred to those people alive at the time of the creation of the Constitution.
I think the best thing we can do is be real Americans in the face of their craziness. With God’s help, let us do our work to meet our needs so we are not dependent upon the government. Let us not buy into their schemes. I’ve stopped giving any attention to the media. I very seldom watch TV or listen to radio. I quit subscribing to magazines years ago. All of these have become marketing tools to sell us stuff we don’t need. It has turned us into slaves who finance the elite lifestyles of the ruling class and kept us poor and in debt. We need to rise above this system and find there is a better way of life. We need to return to the simple life where we have time and energy to do the enjoyable things. This would in essence be a boycott of the current political/financial culture. If enough people took part, it would definitely bring about change. Perhaps a revolution without firing a shot. Let the ones who caused the problems worry about solving them. Let us just live happily ever after by finding ways to ignore the whole system. TD’s sharing page with the recipes was a good diversion. I’ve found may over the last ten years. Try it, you’ll find you can live on much less and be a lot happier.
ILBlue
My husband and I both thought Mitt was the guy for the job, and were very disappointed to come back into the country from a vacation to find that he had dropped out. We were amazed that people had *such* a hangup about the Mormon religion, yet thought nothing of the fact that BHO sat in a chuch for 20 years that spewed such hate and filth. When I brought this up to my mother in law (a died in the wool ‘bot) she actually asked me if I had ever sat in church and not liked what the pastor was saying. “Yes!” I said, “But not for 20 years!” Then she tried to tell me that Rev. Wright had only recently said those things, it hadn’t been happening for 20 years, blah, blah, blah…oye vey!
Anyway, had Mitt been elected, with his deep understanding of economics, corporate experience, leadership ability, common sense and ethics, I would actually have confidence about America being able to put itself out of this mess. Right now, everything is as clear as mud.
Obama can’t be POTUS.
Since no congressman and senator objected on 1/8/09 to Congress’ count and certification of the electoral vote which would have turned resolution of Obama’s eligibility issue over to Congress, rendering moot both the Berg and Lightfoot cases, Berg finally does achieve standing on the issue of actual harm, to be addressed at the 1/9/09 SCOTUS Conference on Writ of Certiorari. Obama’s failure to submit evidence of his constitutional qualification for the 1/9/09 conference will mean he cannot thereafter challenge Berg’s request to enjoin the 1/8/09 Congressional electoral count and certification, albeit retroactive, scheduled for SCOTUS conference 1/16/09. Moreover, Chief Justice Roberts has scheduled a full Court conference on the Lightfoot case 1/23/09 in the event there needs to be a Constitutionally mandated action, the Inauguration itself, to enjoin retroactively.
Checkmate! (WHERE IS THE NEWS MEDIA?)
Something to think about. However citizens groups can certainly sue on behalf of any number of issues, laws etc. based on the purported illegality of an Obama presidency and an Obama administration. Simply because he committed fraud is no reason to acceed to his dishonesty or to the abbrogation of constitutional law.
Richard: It’s already known that BHO is NOT related to Sarah Obama. She is his step-grandmother. Even IF BHO Sr. is his father, Sarah Obama is NOT the mother of BHO Sr. His father had multiple wives, as did he.
It’s sad that not one senator had the guts to stand up yesterday. I knew that nobody would, as soon as I got a load of the mood in the chamber. All smiles. All excitement.
Did you catch the lack of protocol where they clapped and cheered announcements of votes for BHO/Biden but greeted votes for McCain/Palin with stone cold silence?
The Republicans are too cowardly to stand up for the people and the Constitution. Why? Because they know that to do so–to be the “cause” of a rejection of BHO as POTUS–would be political suicide. Or so they think.
They don’t consider that to NOT object and to go along is more risky for them as a party than they can possibly conceive.
I, for one, will never vote for any of them again. Not one of them who sat there on their hands–Republican OR Democrat.
Maybe only Kit Bond knows the lay of the land. He announced yesterday that he’s not running for re-election. Why? Possibly a massive amount of mail from constituents, concerning this ineligibility issue.
I heard Rush Limbaugh say today that he has inside knowledge of a Republican internal meeting that took place recently. All were warned to go along and to NOT be negative in any way with regard to BHO. Why?
The political fate of Republican senators from northeastern states.
It’s true that IF they lose some of those seats, then Pelosi/Reid/BHO will have the country totally in their grasps.
Yes. Go along and you MIGHT save the seats of those northeastern Republicans.
But go along and you’ll also be risking seats in states that formerly were a lock for the Republican party.
A Catch 22. So, what’s the honorable thing to do? Whatever it is, they didn’t do it yesterday.
Everyone, I just checked orly’s blog, READ THIS! Get the word out – everywhere – you guys know MSM is involved in this major coverup – so its up to ALL OF US to get the word out to every website, blog, friends, etc.! Get involved, research, help to find answers to this puzzle if you can, spread what we already know about Ba**y Hu**ein Soet**o Obummer.
http://drorly.blogspot.com/
Friday, January 9, 2009
Urgent- Obama’s mother used someone else’s social security number
As you remember I reported that the social security number 535-40-8522 that Obama’s mother Stanley Ann Dunham used most of her life showed active many years after she supposedly passed away.
Two days ago I reported that there is a woman in Bothell WA, Phyllis Albriktsen that has been using this social security number all her life. By all accounts she is the real owner of this social security number. She was born in Washington state on 12.28.42. She has roots in the community and lived all her life in that community. Last phone number 425-485-8815. Please, our patriots from Wa. Visit this woman and her family. See names of all the relatives below. I need to know how did this Stanley Ann Dunham (or who ever in god’s name she is)got this woman’s info. How did their lives cross? Phyllis is the same age as Stanley Ann, they are only one month apart. (Stanley Ann was born in November 1942, if this is even her real birth date)
Please, report this to all the media, all of law enforcement, all of governmental officials, particularly Chicago FBI, Patrick Fitzgerald’s office, all of elected officials, Att. General of the US Muke Mukasey. I am deeply concerned why nobody in government and law enforcement is acting. This is such a tremendous danger to the National Security of this whole country. We have no clue who these people are. Their social security numbers are wrong, their birth certificates are sealed and hidden from the citizens of this country. No marriage license for Ann Dunham and BO sr, no burial place, no medical records, no birthing records from any hospital, no coroners reports for the deceased. If the law enforcement and government of this country does not step up to the plate and doesn’t announce official investigation of this matter immediately, we need to protect ourselves, we need civilian militia, we need our own investigating services, we need new government.
Please see Intellius report
Background Report for Phyllis Albriktsen, 66
LOCATIONS FOR PHYLLIS ALBRIKTSEN:
2 Addresses in SNOHOMISH, WA
1 Address in BOTHELL, WA
RELATIVES OF PHYLLIS ALBRIKTSEN:
Scott Albriktsen
Ron Albriktsen
Roger Albriktsen
Wade Albriktsen
+ 5 More Relatives
INCLUDES 1 PEOPLE SEARCH RECORD FOR PHYLLIS ALBRIKTSEN IN WA.
Posted by Orly Taitz, DDS Esq. at 5:25 AM 23 comments Links to this post
Edit: MSM *are* covering for Obama
Dave: Thank you for your help re: the Redress Petition
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I pray Fitz is not involved in the cover-up, but I haven’t yet seen evidence to prove otherwise.
Ali,
I’ve been having thoughts for quite some time that Obama’s mother was CIA, and that Obama is actually Jewish. I just cannot prove it yet so I’ve not shared this.
Your comment continues to lead me down this path however.
The SCOTUS site has a “miscellaneous orders” page posted today. I can’t see anything regarding Berg.
OMG American Girl, read the military complaint! Inhofe is in there! And send him a copy when you’re done.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
Phyllis spouse name is Ronald W. born in 1943
joe the cynic, you’re almost there. In fact, a military person who refuses to obey what he or she considers is an illegal command based on the fact BO is not a NBC as required by the U.S. Constitution, which document the soldier swore to protect and defend; will face criminal prosecution. At that time, any good defense lawyer will subpoena all of the records necessary to exonerate the client! And no judge will deny the request.
jbjdhttp://jbjd.wordpress.com/
td, please, fix the link in my last submission…should read
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
Jacqlyn Smith, he did claim – in fact, he swore a solemn oath to the S of S of AZ in 12.2007, saying he would participate in the D Presidential primary. A line in that official form asked, are you a NBC? He said, yes.
That’s why it looked so odd that he would now state, he is a “native” citizen.
It’s in the military Complaint. Read it!
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
kin also of PHYLLIS and RONALD W. ALBRIKTSEN-
Angela C. born in 1973
Kenall L. born in 1973
Norman R. born in 1959
Clifford H.
Jennifer L.
*********************************************************************************************************
Name – ALBRIKTSEN, PHYLISS
Gender – Female
Street Address – 4424 156TH ST SE
City, State, Zip – BOTHELL WA 98012-4718
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone – 425-485-8815 – PST
Telephone Accountholder –
Social Security – 535-40-xxxx
Age –
Date of Birth –
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified –
CORRECTION-
“Kenall”
should be
“Kendall”
just wanted to point out after seeing a pic of the helmets of the UN soldiers ….
they are the exact same color Smurf blue of the fake logo and signs of Obama when he was campaigning. ooh freaky
Miri – on your comment:
“It’s sad that not one senator had the guts to stand up yesterday. I knew that nobody would, as soon as I got a load of the mood in the chamber. All smiles. All excitement.”
Your analysis is so right on. It’s so depressing and alarming to realize these elected govt officials are so far removed from reality, they really are just playing a game – the DEMS – “oh boy we got the power – let’s really take the country as far left as possible” – what was it Rahmbo said – something like – “let’s not waste a good crisis” – the REPS – “finally, someone else will be blamed when the ship goes down.” – “and just in case they don’t get blamed, we will just sit here paralyzed – anything to keep our precious seats.”
“Power” seems to be the drug of choice in our govt these days….any action or inaction is justified by that need to maintain power.
Truly, this is a sad day for Americans who love their country.
They’re going ahead with impeachment of Blagojevich. He’s defiant in a press conference today.
The IL Supreme Court appears to side with Burris–the Senate does not need White’s signature to seat Burris. What next?
Will they wait until a new governor appoints someone else who WILL get White’s signature? Then what? Two “junior senators” from IL?
These guys are playing with fire. Consider the ramifications if they succeed in ousting Blagojevich. What will he have to lose at that point? He WILL spill the beans, if only to get revenge. Why not?
If they don’t seat Burris, then what will Burris do? What will he have to lose? Nothing.
What did Blagojevich share with Burris, and vice versa?
This is like a soap opera. Or a farce. Fiddling while Rome burns.
What do you citizenship nuts say to this?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-obama-ad-03-dec03,0,3124041.story?track=rss
btw, did somebody already mention that ad (referenced at WND) questioning BHO’s qualifications? Most of the major networks (if not all of them) refused to run the ad. Why? It’s on You Tube, if you want to see it.
This is interesting… allegedly the Commission on the Presidential debates certified that the candidates met the Constitutional qualifications for POTUS:
http://www.yourfellowcitizen.com/2009/01/big-tip-commission-on-presidential.html
??
Everyone reading this: Please report Dr. Orly’s findings regarding the social security number problem to the FBI – COPY AND PRINT the post above (Ali – Alleycat Jan. 9, 2:30) and MAIL it to them (start to copy from where Ali has Dr. Orly’s website address).
I’m going to do that and I suggest you all do that, too. The more they get, the less likely they are to discard, ignore or lose.
This is a major problem. I have actually thought of moving to Australia or England, but this is actually a world problem and it begins with the Usurper, the FakeMan, the Man Without A Country. THIS IS SCARY and something has to be done about it.
I read in many places that Ann’s social security number was used for 9 years after her “death” and now Dr. Orly finds out that the number belonged to someone else??? Whaaaa? This most certainly is “the enemy from within” – we can’t wait four years … in two years we will not recognize this country, the one YOU grew up in so innocently. How will your children grow up?
Look, maybe the FBI is in on this too, but MAYBE they’re not. We have to trust SOMEONE. Please everyone, copy and paste Ali’s post above and mail it to:
Federal Bureau of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
Start copying from where Ali has Dr. Orly’s website address. I’m doing this right now. Thank you, my fellow patriots who want our children to have a good and happy life.
And to you Obamabots reading this: you do not know enough to understand what is happening here – you have turned a blind eye to the facts. But one day, if nothing is done, your children will be living in a different world. Can’t you see how much is hidden about this man and his family?
There is something really evil going on here and we have to get to the bottom of it. I went through too much as a single mom to have my sons grow up and lose their innocence in a country where it’s leaders keep their identities secret.
Copy and print Ali’s post starting from the web address and mail it to the FBI now … please.
Orders are now posted on the Supreme Court website for today. Nothing on the Berg case was listed. By now we know the routine ladies and gentlemen. On Monday Berg and the American people will once again be DENIED justice.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/010909zr.pdf
drkate,
That was a very interesting story you wrote. To all the naysayers–drkate’s article was more believable that the “cock and bull” mess we have been forced to digest from the Obama camp!
What was Obama doing all those years in New York?? Could this shed some light?
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=122&a=1613
OK, here, let me make this as quick and simple as possible.
Please everyone do this and if you wish, you don’t have to place your return address on the envelope. I corrected grammar and shortened it a bit. You do not have to sign it, just send it. One page, envelope & stamp. Please.
Copy and print only the following below the line and mail it
tomorrow to:
Federal Bureau of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
————————————————————————————-
Dear Investigator:
According to Attorney Dr. Orly Taitz at http://drorly.blogspot.com
Friday, January 9, 2009
Urgent- Obama’s mother used someone else’s social security number
It has been noted that the social security number 535-40-8522 that Obama’s mother Stanley Ann Dunham used most of her life showed active many years after she supposedly passed away.
Two days ago Dr. Orly reported that there is a woman in Bothell WA, Phyllis Albriktsen who has been using this social security number all her life. By all accounts she is the real owner of this social security number. She was born in Washington state on 12.28.42. She has roots in the community and lived all her life in that community. Last phone number 425-485-8815.
We need to know how did this Stanley Ann Dunham (or who ever in god’s name she is) get this woman’s info? How did their lives cross? Phyllis is the same age as Stanley Ann, they are only one month apart. (Stanley Ann was born in November 1942, if this is even her real birth date)
I am deeply concerned why nobody in government and law enforcement is acting. This is such a tremendous danger to the National Security of this whole country. We have no clue who these people are. Their social security numbers are wrong, their birth certificates are sealed and hidden from the citizens of this country. No marriage license for Ann Dunham and BO sr, no burial place, no medical records, no birthing records from any hospital, no coroners reports for the deceased. If the law enforcement and government of this country does not step up to the plate and doesn’t announce official investigation of this matter immediately, we need to protect ourselves, we need civilian militia, we need our own investigating services, we need new government. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS.
Please see Intellius report
Background Report for Phyllis Albriktsen, 66
LOCATIONS FOR PHYLLIS ALBRIKTSEN:
2 Addresses in SNOHOMISH, WA
1 Address in BOTHELL, WA
RELATIVES OF PHYLLIS ALBRIKTSEN:
Scott Albriktsen
Ron Albriktsen
Roger Albriktsen
Wade Albriktsen
+ 5 More Relatives
I believe the intractable political problem here is that BHO’s eligibility is inextricably linked to the citizenship status of millions of anchor babies (whose numbers may be growing by close to 1/2 million a year: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters4608).
That is, if Judah Benjamin’s view were accepted, the precedent established by Wong Kim Ark would be invalidated (or narrowed substantially) and the “automatic” US citizenship of these babies–past and future–would be nullified as well.
Somewhere in the bazillions of posts I’ve read here and elsewhere, someone–perhaps Judah Benjamin, TD or Dr Kate, pointed out that a) as a constitutional law professor,
BHO surely knows what he is doing; b) even before BHO arrived on the scene, there has been a cottage industry of legal scholars who have long objected to the NBC requirement and sought to have it relaxed; c) in essence, BHO’s successful bid for presidency is achieving by a fait accompli what legal scholars might never have been achieve directly through the more ponderous and uncertain process of securing a constitutional amendment to secure their views. Therefore, d) whatever planning to pull off this below-the-radar ploy must have been years in the making.
But the community of individuals who care about this issue on its intrinsic merits is tiny: it’s not as if the Democrats are uniquely or persistently disadvantaged in putting forward viable presidential candidates because of the NBC provision. And the most puzzling aspect of the “conspiracy of silence” among the media and individuals (read: Hillary Clinton) with a potent motivation to blow the whistle on BHO’s dual citizenship status can be explained by the recognition that using this issue to defeat BHO might have represented a tactical victory for a given Democrat presidential candidate such as HRC, but it would have represented a huge blow to aspirations of the Democrats as a party.
Anchor babies not only embody a large and growing group of future voters (realistically, I don’t know how many actually have yet attained voting age), but they also represent a large and growing bloc who have become accustomed to relying on a welfare state literally from birth.
Watch the debates over Medicare, Social Security and health reform. Democrats learned from Medicare and SS that once people get put onto a government program, they will scream the loudest once someone tries to take it away. Thus, leaving aside how such anchor babies might vote, they are a very welcome addition to the inertia that favors solving the looming entitlements crisis by raising taxes on “the rich” rather than making massive reductions in either the numbers of citizens who are eligible or the scope of benefits.
In terms of averting a firestorm of protest that could cripple its perceived legitimacy for decades, the Supreme
Court (which after all DID intervene in the 2000 election despite the “political risks” involved) may have concluded that it is the prospect of instantaneously stripping 10 million (?) U.S. citizens of their citizenship rather than the prospect of denying BHO the presidency that is the greatest inhibiting factor at work.
Just wondering: A child is born to
American citizens while they are serving as missionaries in a foreign country.
Question: Is that child eligible to run for President of the United States under the laws of the United States Constitution? Thanks.
I was lurking at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs website (Michelle Obama still appears on the Board of Directors as Vice President for Community and External Affairs on behalf of The University of Chicago Medical Center). I looked at the upcoming events and found something really interesting.
There’s an event scheduled to take place on
TUESDAY, JANUARY 20, 2009: Inauguration Day Pub Quiz
Do You Have Command of Your World Knowledge?
Is a silly gathering to talk about “who has the best recall of the “who, what, when, and where” of 2008. Think you know the world? Then gather your friends and create a team of four, or come as a single (we’ll put you on a team), and head to Martyrs’ for a night of global affairs and great prizes….”
However, if you want to register, you cannot. The webpage has the following note:
“Due to a system upgrade, online transactions are not currently possible. Online transactions will resume on January 12. Please visit again then. We apologize for any inconvenience.”
http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/chicago_council_event_corporate_detail.php?eventid=2007
It’s interesting because none of the other events promoted by the Council seem to have that “system upgrade” problem.
Check all of them at
http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/programs_upprogs.php
Why are they holding up this precisely event registration till January 12??? Waiting to see what happens??
Alikat, re; post on ss number for Stanley Ann Dunham above; See all of my recent info on the 09 fundraiser link and check those names FIRST. I will too. You are on top of it too girl ! GO ! Combine the names on search and skim ! Good job !
DrKate and TD…
Must Read latest from http://english.pravda.ru/ titled: Obama: Deceiver, Cheat, Swindler, Liar, Fraudster, Con Artist
What amazes me is the Pravda has greater insight into USA than we do… I applaude Pravda’s article and their ability to cut through the Obama Hype…
God Bless America and may He help up prevail in our hour of need. BTW, the article has some great links.
Ali,
I’m not able to repeat these results.
Does anyone have a saved print screen of this occurring? It very well might have and since been “covered up” by the powers-that-be.
The SSN# wouldn’t show up at all unless Phyllis was dead – I’m wondering if someone made a typo. Hopefully there is a saved screenshot of this? When I fill in the SSN I’m still getting Obama’s mother’s name.
I feel for the Albriktsen’s at this very moment.
Prior to 1973, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the office code in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be in the area where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. The area number is the first three digits.
WA is the port where whoever Obama’s mother is would have come through when arriving from Kenya.
Ohhhh…. chit.
I’m staying up tonight. And the next night. This is hot. Anybody else?
Somebody put the coffee on.
Area numbers for the SSN: (First 3 digits) 509-515
card was issued in Kansas
Area numbers for the SSN: (First 3 digits) 531-539
card was issued in Washington state
Ann Dunham… Phyll… the card was issued in Washington State.
source:
socialsecurity.gov/employer/stateweb.htm
Update at
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/more-info-on-535-40-8522.html
“I am trying to solve the mystery of this social security number. I received information from a private investigator that the social security number 535-40-8522 was entered together with the name of Phyllis Albriktsen into the Lexis-Nexus and Choice Point database, that is owned by Cisco. I was told that Cisco was purchased by a Chinese company (I don’t have the name). I called Ms. Phyllis Albriktsen at 425-337-1098, she said that it is not her ss number, she didn’t know who did it.
I need help from people that do tech support for Lexis- Nexus, ChoicePoint and Cisco. I need to track a person, that is entering this information and I need to know why he or she is doing it. If you work for one of these companies and can help tracing people that are entering this information,please call 949-683-5411 or e-mail dr_taitz@yahoo.com, mark “Re trace ss” ”
Leave Phyllis alone, for now!
With all due respect, the “Pravda” piece was written by an American from the BlogRadio MommaE Radio Rebels group. Not anyone associated with Pravda.
Diss, Run her name with the names I listed on the 09 fundraiser link. Read all the way up to the start of them. This is your cookie half. I have MORE for you soon too. Tonight. Will keep it all connected there on 09 link for now so you can keep the connections. Lets rock !
Jilli @ 5:16, I saw those Daily Squib pics a few days ago. Obama was in high school in Hawaii when they were supposedly taken. I think they’re photo-shopped, they look more like current-day Obama than photos of high school/college Obama. Somebody’s idea of a joke maybe – but joke on whom?
Comment from Citizen Well;;;
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Anonymous replies:Today, 2:31:51 PM“Hi- I was visiting the Citizen Wells website and was reading the
comments regarding ongoing research into Obama’s past. I ran across a
comment by “kittykat” wherein she alleged that she had been doing research
at ports of entry, because she had learned that none of the airlines in 1961
had direct flights to Kenya from Hawaii,or such flights from Kenya to
Hawaii. I assume that she reasoned that there had to be a point of entry. I
assume that she may have researched Customs records of several ports of
entry before finding the described information which she posted and I
reiterated in my comments which you obviously read. I am hopeful that you
will see fit to visit the US Customs sites as well. I am not skilled enough
to conduct such searches. You need a very skilled researcher who knows how
to enter the various Government websites,and move about within them to find
the information desired. I am sure that there is probably a lot to be found
from older microfilm spools as well. Again I do not know how to do this. In
1961 many US Government agencies were still using the microfilm systems.
This was a time in which a transition to electronic data storage was just
beginning. I would think that this would add a certain level of difficulty
to conducting such research,although it is not to say that it cannot be
done. It is just that a well trained researcher is needed; at least it seems
to me.
Kittykat also stated that Stanley Anne Dunham had signed her name as
“Stanley Anne D.Obama”. It would seem to me that this could be a problem to
a researcher if it was not known how the signature read. In fact it could be
missed. I would think that if all of what Kittykat has to say is accurate
there would be no further need for Obama’s birth certificate because his
place of birth is clearly stated, and legally testified to by virtue of her
signature. I personally think that not even the US Supreme Court could
ignore it. If you are able to obtain copies of this I believe that I would
put a picture of the signed document in every newspaper in the US who is
willing to accept it. I would see to it that it ran for several days as
well. I would also run it in the Hawaii newspapers. Then MMMMMSSSS FUKINO
could no longer LIE to covers Obama’s backside. Like wise for MMMMSSSS.
LINGLE who is also a part of the plot at the Hawaii Boerd of Health. Of
course I have no proof of what I am saying. This is all based upon the facts
at hand, and what it all indicates. That is why I advised you to also visit
the US Customs website and extract your own information. Ithink that it
would mean quite a lot in court.
I am hopeful that this will help with whatever you are pursuing.
Regards; George T Wright Fort Wayne Indiana Veteran US Navy
Korean War. Email; djsgarden1@verizon.net
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http://www.cyndislist.com/portsentry.htm ( Port of Entry )
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/id…to_the_u_s.xml (immigration)
And this from Free Republic….
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Importance of the newly located Dunham/Obama Sr divorce decree in proving ineligibility
Restore The Constitutional Republic ^
Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:01:24 AM by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama’s mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial “D” –instead of ‘Dunham’, was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama’s mother provided when she returned to the US with her son–soon after Obama’s birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama’s birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events…see other comments below. ————————————————– DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I’ve been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I’m now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as “Dunham”, no where in public records has Obama’s Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the “D” being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a “port of entry” birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate…proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he’s not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I’m not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I’m still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I’m a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn’t say that earlier today.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne…posts?page=564
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John Mirse –
Just wondering: A child is born to
American citizens while they are serving as missionaries in a foreign country.
Question: Is that child eligible to run for President of the United States under the laws of the United States Constitution? Thanks.
At present: No! Not unless the Mother returns to the U.S., and the child is born on U.S. soil.
In any case, the baby will be a ‘U.S. Citizen’ at birth, no matter where in the world he or she is born, and known as a ’statutory’ or ‘derivative’ Citizen, and would not need to pass through Immigration, but still not a ‘natural-born Citizen.’ American parents, American soil is still the basis for ‘natural-born Citizen.’
John Mirse: From precedent the requirements for “natural born” are jus soli jus sanguine BOTH PARENTS
For naturalized US Citizenship it’s either jus soli or jus sanguine, only one US citizen parent required for latter
For native born it’s jus soli
For “Citizen of the World” like 0bama, it’s neither
ILBlue – your FreeRepublic link doesn’t work. Is it incorrect or just incomplete. Tried searching FR but got nothing.
wo…sh, the CPD is a private non-profit (501(c)).
http://www.debates.org/
They might have ‘verified’ BO was Constitutionally eligible for POTUS; he might have shown them his HI COLB!
Verification of eligibility credentials by the CPD is in fact, no independent verification at all. The CPD is neither an independent nor non-partisan entity. It is totally controlled by the Dems and Reps since 1986 when they kicked out the truly independent League of Women Voters.
Read the article Connie Rice: Top 10 Secrets They Don’t Want You to Know About the Debates.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4052162
jbjd – req to “send to Inhofe”
I will – but tell me please – should I preface the text w/ any kind of msg?- or just fwd the copied text of this draft?
TO JOHN MIRSE:
First Congress, Sess. II, Ch. 4
1790
….And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens;…
jbjd – sent to Inhofe – w/ 107-108 highlighted
Here is a copy of Stanley Ann’s SS application, 535-40-8522.
http://www.webofdeception.com/obamamother’sssapplication.html
I wonder if this company has his indonesian passport records….
http://www.findbiometrics.com/viewnews.php?id=3440
Where’s a good hacker when ya need one! (j/k)
Blago: the gift that keeps on giving…
Andy Stern, head of SEIU met with Blagojevich last fall around the time that prosecutors allege Blago was discussing ways to sell the Senate seat and that Tom Balanoff, head of SEIU in Illinois, was also present..
SEIU made more than $27 million in independent expenditures in support of President-elect Barack Obama’s presidential campaign..
http://www.unionfacts.org/articles/seiuPayForPlay.cfm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123129925187060043.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/09/AR2008120903057.html
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=40959
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=724
Obama’s Mama’s Social Security application.
If Stanley Ann was born in Kansas, why does she have a Social Security number that begins with the geographical code for a Washington State baby?
Whose social security number is this?
535-40-8522
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER STATE CODES (first three digits)
509-515 Kansas (KS)
531-539 Washington (WA)
TD REPLY: My research indicated that Stanley Ann applied for her SS# while living on Mercer Island. I wouldn’t make too much of that.
Nope, it wasn’t a typo afterall…very interesting
Bush Sr. IS CIA, Bush is still President, Cheney made “sure” nobody objected to der Zero. The Republicans have got to know all of 0bambi’s dark Kenyan and Indonesian secrets, and then some. I suspect Jesse Jackson may never get to cut off 0fraud’s family jewels because the Reps already have them in a safe place. The 0bambi administration is only going to make the economy, security, far worse, he will be exposed for corruption and fraud over and over and over again. By the time this is over, the Democrats will be discredited for another two decades and take all the blame. 0fraud seems more inept than ever, though ambitious and surrounded by scoundrels, it looks like Blago and Burris have already blackmailed the bunch of them, quite easily too. It looks like Biden, whose son helped harass Larry Sinclair out of the way, did some blackmailing for his undeserved position. 0bama is pwnd, that’s why he looks like a little boy standing amongst men in the picture with the 4 other presidents. He not only does not know who he is or what he actually believes in, he’s torn in so many directions he will assuredly fall apart.
John Mirse and Bob,
This is today’s law. US Code, Title 18, Section 1401.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
Ali,
I found a screen shot of Stanley Ann Dunham’s original social security application. I’m not sure if you already have this. ” try’in to help out” it show’s her SS# 535-40-8522 on original application.
http://www.webofdeception.com/obamamother’sssapplication.html
hmmm jbjd…
where are you getting that from your link…I went and didn’t see any topic verifying him….Am I missing something…the one likely link wouldn’t work…
Points of Entry –
A flight from Kenya in 1961 would probably be Nairobi to Kandahar, Kandahar to Calcutta (or Singapore), Calcutta to Hong Kong, Hong Kong to Tokyo, Tokyo to Honolulu.
The airline would have been British Overseas (B.O.A.C.)
Probably not Pan AM, and the stops would all be British airfields, at least until Tokyo.
The international jet liner dates from the late 1950’s. My sister flew on the first jet flight from New York to Chicago.
However, there may have been a stopover in Anchorage.
If the jet flight landed in Seattle, then a stopover would probably be Anchorage.
From my beautifully illustrated book-The Constitution of the United States of America written and illustrated by Sam Fink. “This is a backbone”. with illustration. “Man cannot stand erect without one. Neither can a country. The backbone of America is her Constitution.”
Succinctly, lovingly and beautifully stated.
God Bless America her honest and hardworking people. God protect our Constitution and her defenders may angels be with them.
The Government Socked It To Us!
Here is the painful reality. Fitzgerald has been investigating Obama along with Blagojovitch from many long past months. Fitzgerald already knows Obama has already committed enough crimes to be arrested, stand trial, found guilty and sit in jail above and beyond failing to meet Consitutional requirements Section II part I. So does the American public, Obama”s key campaign advisors, the Clintons, Pelosi, and the entire gang of lawless conspirators who are responsible for installing a usurper into the Whitehouse. Obama’s many felony crimes are all so well known by so many, there is no doubt that Fitzgerald was ordered to keep his hands off Obama. In exchange for looking the other way, Fitzgerald was given Blagojevitch as one gives a dog a bone. Obama is simply above the law and untouchable.
There is no doubt in my mind after I heard Congress approve of Obama as President yesterday, that the best the Supreme Court will do is give time and attention to the Obama law suits, then find a convoluted way to claim Obama does meet the Constituional Requirements to be President in hopes of quashing this issue once and for all. America, its wonderful Constitution, and the will of the people be damned. WE now live in a lawless America.
Another words our government socked it to us.
All that remains is to continue beating a dead horse until either we are totally defeated by a government turned dictatorship or we have a revolution.
A government by the people, for the people is only fantasy and an old memory. “We the People” are now victims of tyranny oppression.
Please join the discussion on http://www.blogtalkradio.com/vos between 7 & 9 p.m. pacific standard time. Call in at 347-633-9851. There will be so little time left before the Obama regime starts shutting all voices that oppose him. Let us speak out while we still can!
Well I returned from a trip, with no computer access nor TV, to find out that ‘the worst has happened”. Cheney didn’t even call for an objection. Here is my thinking on what to do next and what it might mean.
First, the petition for redress has to be revised to reflect Cheney’s failure to do his duty. I think David Hagan talked about this being a violation under Title 3 USC ch1 section 15…’misprison’. Cheney could have deliberately ignored his duty (no surprise there); Pelosi could have not transmitted any written objections if she got them; and the republicans–fully aware that they face political suicide if raising the issue apparently were told to ‘get along’. Does this mean Cheney wants to get this to the Supreme Court? Doubtful with that man, imho. But it is true that any objections would have rendered the lawsuits moot….now that Obama/Soetoro is officially president elect, the Court may act.
Second, we must keep going. The letters to the FBI, the jbjd format for military personal, and petitions for redress must occur–even if they do not respond. AS many petitions as possible, or signature. I think it has to be more than to Pelosi/Reid, and they will likely destroy this. Can we get to the clerk of the Senate or House? I am looking for ideas here….
Finally, I still do not believe this is over yet. But I am disturbed by the comment above that the Supremes are asking for a raise and that this might be an issue with them. If it is, they are shallow, petty, human beings.
WE cannot, as patriots, simply give up and go away. But there is a lot of value in mass refusal to pay taxes, for example, demonstrations, refusal to buy into the media, and to working only within your state and ignoring the federal system/orders. As the founders said, if the rulers want the people’s money, well the people can keep it until the rulers pay attention to the people’s needs (paraphrasing).
But, we are facing the worst. The American Revolution begins today.
Now some specific responses to a great group of readers. There is much information here.
**I do agree that this has been planned for a long time. The tracks were covered effectively, people were bought off, people were ‘placed’ in positions ahead of time. In that sense, a coup d’etat has befallen America–from its wealthy, petty, selfish politicians who ‘represent’ us. Obama represents an internal threat to our country, and he is backed by our foreign enemies.
**Mormon Patriot. What a gift your note is. Thank you so much for that story and the history I had no idea about. I personally wrote to the President of the Mormon Church and to Senator Orrin Hatch. With that much history there, I find it hard to beleive that the Mormon Elders would not be concerned about this. But maybe it wasn’t yet the time to act, or maybe it was too late. In any case, thank you. Tears welled up with that story.
Wendy, send it to as many people as you can, including Cheney, house and senate members, FBI. Notarized.
Elliewyatt: when obama adds on his website that he is a ‘native born’ citizen under the 14th amendment, it means he is a naturalized US citizen. Either birthplace or citizenship of his father is why.
CJ. Congress will not keep BO in check. They have a supermajority and they are going to do whatever obama wants. Eliminate republican opposition and bingo: we’re a socialist country.
Tim Allman. Thank you
Joe the Cynic. It does absolutely no good right now to be a cynic, although with the behavior of our government it is certainly a logical conclusion. If we remain cynics, we cannot exercise our constitutionally directed orders, as citizens, to take our country back.
David Hagen. Good job, thanks for revising the petititon.
JBJD. Excellent work.
MM. Anchor babies? The ruling of the Supreme Court on Obama’s eligibility will have nothing to do with the citizenship of these people. ONly article II.
Tarariddle. Pelosi needs to be sued and recalled.
In Mourning. “citizenship nuts”? the article you cited has been known for a long time. Where have you been?
Mawg. Thank you for the suggestion. The fact that he has hired law firms to defend him from proving his eligibility is most important, not the money spent.
Miri. Yes, Blagoyevich is holding all the cards right now. The Il legislature is scared to death, they are all probably corrupt and will get caught.
Illinois Blue. the POE records are important. Is Ed Hale getting those?
JbJd. any way we can get access to those records?
Again all, every one of your comments is so important to me, for my own information, for our information, for the struggle we will undertake very soon. America will survive, but we are embarking on a mission as sacred as our founding fathers. In reality, our constitution was taken in 1913, with the creation of the federal reserve and the non-passed 16th Amendment. EVery President has ’secretly confided” since that time that ‘if Americans knew how their government was run, or how the banks were run, there would be revolution tomorrow.
Well guess what, boys? The revolution begins today. I am not backing down.
Disappointed? you betcha. Mad? indescribably. Wiley? absolutely–they have awakened a sleeping giant and all stops are going to be pulled out. Frightened? yes. Do I have a choice? yes and no. I will not forget anyone who fought and died for this country, ever.
OBama-Soetoro will not be able to occupy Blair house at all:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24889936-5013404,00.html
lolololol
What’s the matter, Michelle?
“Obama and the Ugly New UnAmerican United States”
By Rev. Lainie Dowell Thursday, January 8, 2009
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7443
Lee M …(01-09-09) 11:28pm
Thank you , well said, I agree.
Ali,
I see the web address dident post for Stanley Ann Dunham’s original social security application. If you want the screen shot of this I found the web address in the blog section at the bottom of this artical. it’s the first blog. If you cut copy and paste the web address to your search engine you’ll be able to pull up the screen shot of Stanley Ann Dunham’s original social security application.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20080829/NEWS05/808290416/-1/specialobama08
drkate on January 10, 2009 at 3:18 pm
re: Blair House
This news is the only relief I’ve had from this awful flu and inner ear infection. Thank you drkate for making me feel better.
The black widow spider has to put up with luxury hotel accomodations. I wonder if they have Monsanto bug spray at the hotel?
This is so important, I’m am posting this everywhere I can.
We are own worst enemy.
Patriots All:
Please consider this very carefully. I think it is our ONLY hope. We need to decouple our concerns as much as possible from Obama in a specific way, and focus like a laser beam on “process”.
To the extent that we focus on Obama we will get no attention and no respect. We will be pigeon-holed as sore losers and whiners. In that regard, the conservatives need to understand that, ideologically and capability-wise, Obama is not known to be any worse than Jimmy Carter. On the flip side a fair number (even most?) liberals feel that Obama is no worse (and probably a lot better) than Bush 43 or Richard Nixon.
There is time for political contests and time for reconciliation. There is time for cooperation and there is time for loyal opposition. Just as there has always been and always will be. But if we cannot separate this normal pushing and shoving of politics from dealing with a constitutional crises, then nobody is served well.
Here, without reference to the specifics of the current situation, are the issues – the clear and present danger.
1. DOMESTIC – We are a constitutional republic, not an unconstrained democracy. On one hand we cherish the idea than anyone can become president, but on the other hand they have to achieve this in a constitutionally sanctioned manner. It is also a fundamental aspect of The American Way that all such momentous decisions and elections are conducted in an open and auditable manner. There is no specific class of Americans who are uniquely assigned the role of “constitutional police”. It is the responsibility and duty of all of us to do this. Not just congress, not just government agencies, not just the courts, and not just the mainstream media. One of the essential purposes of the first amendment is so that a fee and open dialog is ongoing among all types of Americans everywhere. It is therefore not only important, but paramount, that no relevant raw data is withheld from the people. It amounts to censorship and the curtailment of free speech when we are denied data and open government processes. We must insist on our constitutional right to be fully informed. We cannot accept (in fact, we are duty bound to reject) any public office which is filled by secrecy and subterfuge.
2. FOREIGN – One of the facts of a constitution which guarantees transparent and open government, is that foreign powers can witness our government and our processes in-action. Whenever anything is veiled in secrecy (whether a military situation or a civilian situation), such foreigners can only assume that something suspicious is happening. While such secrecy is necessary in some circumstances, it is hardly ever warranted in civilian situations. This is especially damaging in situations where a process is constitutionally required to be open and has historically always been so. If we do not follow a process (especially one meant to protect us from internal corruption), outsiders looking in now discover a weakness and are given a strong hint how to exploit it. So we can only conclude that besides whatever negatives accrue directly and immediately from the break in process, we have poisoned the water for years to come. And more urgently, if specific information is being hidden during a current process that could affect the outcome, we have set up the winner (and all he represents – i.e. the whole country) for certain blackmail.
So, to come full circle to the instant circumstance, regardless of popular votes, regardless of “change we can believe in”, regardless of racial issues, regardless of economic and social agendas, Mr. Obama must go through the same process as every other presidential hopeful. He must be shown to be constitutionally eligible (burden of proof to rest on him, not the naysayers), and the relevant documentation made available to the public.
Irrespective of political affiliation we all need to insist on this and to agree to let the chips fall where they may. If Obama is determined eligible via this open process then all parties and all segments of society need to come together to work together to make the best possible good of his presidency. This will insure the best good for America, as a whole. And if he is not eligible, then we all need to get behind the constitutional provisions for remedying such a situation.
But above all – no more whining and no more accusations. This is not a personal issue with Obama. (Besides, the election is over – as of yesterday – and Obama is right now officially President Elect.) This is a constitutional issue in regards the whole of America and The American Way.
(And, yes, I realize our adversarial judicial system requires perpetrators and victims. I am not so much complaining about court cases, but the majority of postings by concerned and/or overwrought citizens.)
Bob–Kandahar is a not-so-big place in Afghanistan. They didn’t have a jetport in 1970, or in 1961. Good bets are Bombay/Mumbai, Calcutta, New Delhi, Colombo (Sri Lanka), Cairo, Rome, Athens, Beirut, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Algiers, Morocco on the way. All international ports.
For someone born in “hawaii”,and then moved to indonesia…why would he show his kids where “home” was?
“He came here with his wife, Michelle, and the children to show them where is home,” Obama’s grandmother said proudly.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20080206/obamas-kenya-village-looks-to-us-vote_all.htm
Dr. Kate: You have many allies who are just awaiting a leader who can move us forward in a legitimate way. We are all doing what we can, but for any true effort we need leadership with finances and true patriotism. We need someone(or many) who is not afraid to stand up in Public and state the case for all to hear, in spite of the best efforts of the msm. Right now, we are painted as wackos who have conspiracy theories up the wazoo. Obama is well protected, but that facade can be breached with the right co-ordinated effort I do believe..
Maybe this newborn Continental Congress meeting that is going to occur soon will help get the word out and polarize all the factions who are desperately trying to fight for our country, it’s values and it’s Constitution. You (and TD) do us all a tremendous service and I salute you and your efforts. I am ready, willing and able to help defend my America.
Dr. Kate
According to Ed Hale at http://www.plainsradio.com, he has hired Stephen Pidgeon to investigate the POE BC. He is the attorney who filed the Obama case in Washington state. That is why he was asking for donations to support the investigation. I don’t know where they are in the process. They just initiated it this week.
Regarding Ann Dunham having a social security card from Washington and not Kansas–back in the olden days
, you applied for a social security card usually when you were a teenager and you were going to apply for your first job. Nowadays your parents are required to apply for yours at birth. This is probably the reason she got hers in Washington when she first applied for a real job. She wouldn’t have needed to apply in the state she was born in.
tanarg
The question was “natural-born Citizen.’
There is NOTHING in the 100,000s of pages of the entire Code of Federal Regulations that defines ‘natural-born Citizen.’
The idea comes from Emmerich de Vattel, the eminent Swiss Jurist, who wrote a book in French that was in the library of Thomas Jefferson:
‘Le Droit des Gens, ou, Principes de la loi naturelle, appliqué à la conduite & aux affaires des nations & des souverains’ (1758)
The ‘natural-born Citizen’ comes from the “principals of natural law.” It is not defined by the Constitution, but on the contrary, the Constitution is written and adopted by folks who are ‘natural-born Citizens.’
That’s the difference. That’s the distinction.
‘Natural-born Citizens’ say what the Constitution means,and not the Constitution telling us who is or who is not ‘natural-born Citizens.’ Basically, if you have to ask, you’re not one.
So, a ‘natural-born Citizen’ means the “children of American parents born on American soil.”
Everyone else is covered by the text you copied, which is based upon the 14th Amendment.
The 14th Amendment is one of those sentences in the Constitution that was written and adopted by the vast majority of Americans who are ‘natural-born Citizens.’
Remember, We the People? That’s another term of the vast majority of ‘natural-born Citizens.’
Howard Dean resigned as Chairman of the DNC.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/11/10/145258/85
“Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who rose to national prominence during a failed bid for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, will not seek a second term as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, clearing the way for a loyalist of President-elect Barack Obama to be named to the soon-to-be vacant post. …
Dean’s future remains cloudy although he has been mentioned as a possible choice to head the Department of Health and Human Services in an Obama Administration. Former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) is also being mentioned for that job.”
Dr Kate – beautifully said –
“Disappointed? you betcha. Mad? indescribably. Wiley? absolutely–they have awakened a sleeping giant and all stops are going to be pulled out. Frightened? yes. Do I have a choice? yes and no. I will not forget anyone who fought and died for this country, ever.”
This is so surreal – I think John Edwards may have been right – “there really are at least TWO Americas”……a dark, dirty, sinister America that I did not know existed among the elite, politically connected – Am I naive? Sadly, today, I must admit, yes.
American Patriots, doing the most incredible investigative reporting I have ever witnessed – td, drkate, jbjd, copper, renee, diss, ali – and all the others – please know this – my prayers for your success & protection in digging up whatever rotten corpses you all are finding are non-stop at this point.
See new open thread.
And thank you everyone for the informative comments, especially Dr. Kate.
TD, if these guys are going to play these games,why can’t we play with them.We should pick just one news channel and watch that one only, let the others go down. I’m so mad at the news and the Senate and Congress, I could bite a nail in two.
on January 9, 2009 at 10:14 pm Emcrouchon
Here is direct link again to FreeRepublic as referenced up thread….
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2158064/posts?page=564
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drkate… From my my understanding this refers more to bloggers who are researching this not so much Ed? But then I personally don’t follow his show, and not too sure if he is to be trusted. SO if Ed finds them ok GREAT but I would never count on him doing it. But other bloggers are searching. Hope that answers your question?
In regards to not occupying Blair house I was excited as well because it is really driving the Obots to the extremes but “We The People ” are footing the bill for them to stay in one of the Most Expensive Hotels in the area.
SO it’s a mixed blessing/ outrage.
on January 10, 2009 at 1:54 pm Therese Daniels
The Government Socked It To Us!
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Yes I have been saying the same thing . Fritz and the feds have had to have enough on Blago and Obama since they have been investigating both of them since before Blago was even in office when Obama and Rahm were his top campaign advisors. And since then with the Rezko trial and others involved who were also indicted and found guilty shows paths to both Blago and Obama’s criminal activities.
The claim was the Feds didn’t allow as much about Blago and Obama in the Rezko trial as they could because they were holding it for their investigations of Blago and Obama.
The fix has been in this entire time which to some degree explains the crazy things that occurred in the Primaries and GE that were so obvious to many but ignored by the powers that be on both sides of the aisle and Feds.
It is very discouraging and disillusioning after the past 8 yrs to wait for something better and now know it is only going to get worse and we may have no control over that at all.
I just received this info in an email. Unfortunately, Michelle Malkin’s web site is currently being “relocated” and is not up right now. (www.michellemalkin.com)
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Harry Reid’s shamnesty stand: Senate Bill 9 will tear down the border “wall”
By Michelle Malkin • January 8, 2009 11:08 PM
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/harry-reids-shamnesty-stand-senate-bill-9-will-tear-down-the-border-wall/
Harry Reid has filed S. 9, the Democrats’ new shamnesty bill. Not much difference in principle between Reid’s bill and McCain-Kennedy-Bush. Disingenuous lip service to immigration enforcement? Check. Path to legalization? Check.
There are a few new nuggets — most notably, open hostility to the Fence in Name Only on our southern border. Quoting from the bill:
And I believe we would be wise to reconsider the effectiveness and cost of a wall along our southern border, which has adversely affected the fragile environment and vibrant cross-border culture of an entire region. Such a wall stands as a symbol of fear and intolerance. This is not what America is about and we can do better.
“Vibrant cross-border culture?” Like the hellish, head-chopping, kidnapping and lawlessness striking fear on both sides of the border? “Fragile environment?” He’s more concerned about some desert plant than he is about the MS-13 gang members and drug runners traipsing across the “region.”
That’s not all. Also prominently featured in Reid’s bill:
We must also live up to the goal of family reunification in our immigration policy and join at least 19 other nations that provide immigration equality to same-sex partners of different nationalities.
These are his top immigration concerns? God help us.
Oh, by the way: McCain Hispanic outreach advisor and anti-”wall” activist Juan Hernandez approves!
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Here are the sponsors of the new AMNESTY bill and its contacts:
CALL Senator Harry Reid as well as the 13 cosponsoring senators below at the 24 hour toll free switchboard – let them know your stance on the “S 9″ bill:
1 877.851.6437
COSPONSORS(13)
Sen Begich, Mark [AK]
Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM]
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA]
Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH]
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL]
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA]
Sen Kerry, John F. [MA]
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN]
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT]
Sen Levin, Carl [MI]
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT]
Sen McCaskill, Claire [MO]
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY]
Therese Daniels, amen
Ilblue, agreed. But every cloud has a silver lining. We are that lining.
Take Heart!
Regarding Mr. Obama’s Ineligibility to be POTUS according Constitution I placed here
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.org/index.php?topic=2170.msg8924#msg8924
my letter to a DP Congressman (sent on 01/03/2009) where (I believe) I proved beyond any doubts that
There is NO NEED TO GET Mr. OBAMA’S BC (Birth Certificate) TO PROVE HIS INELIGIBILITY TO BE POTUS ACCORDING CONSTITUTION.
Everybody who is agree with this foolproof (I believe) proof can use it as his/her own proof.
The proof is based only on 2 fundamental documents – Constitution and The Oath of Allegiance.
P.S. I understand it doesn’t any practical matter what I’m telling about this subject… Someone said something like this: “Do what has to be done. And let be what will be…”
feelinghoodwinked.
Not a surprise this was one of the major iniatives Pelosi , Reid etc. had along for the new Congress and unless I’m wrong Obama mentioned it as a top Priority to be handled immediately.
And I have dealt with both Obama and Durbin and in IL. it’s a big issue for me that I have actively been faxing , emailing and following for the past 8yrs .
All nationalities illegal immigration is acceptable in IL. And as all states with large illegal populations comes higher costs for taxpayers, hospital closings, health care cut backs for paying citizens. Jobs replaced by illegals and H1b’s and other visa holders.
And between illegals, visa holders and more and more corruption in state government , now the state is in huge debt. And the schools can’t even pass the grade on “No Child Left Behind”.
No problem though because the Chicago School superintendent Arnie Dunkin has failed 5 yrs in a row ( entire time he was in this position btw ) but is promoted to Obama administration to take care of the nations Schools.
So you know what that means don’ t you??
We are already becoming a third world country and most just don’t know it yet.
But I think that was part of the plan of “Globalization” wasn’t it? To level the playing field. Two classes only.
Rich and Poor.
And it breaks my heart to see what is becoming of this great Country of ours.
drkate, tell me what you want and I will try to get it for you. Any information referenced in my Complaint, I already have. Leave an email on my blog; everything is in moderation (unless you want me to post).
Thank you for acknowledging the caliber of my work. I do the very best I can to de-construct the problems confronting us during this election cycle, many of which present cases of “first impression”; to figure out how best to resolve these problems; and to explain both to the public in a way they will understand and that will motivate them to assume the responsibility for the preservation of our Constitutional republic.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
drkate,
Here is the material portion of that DNC Certification document from HI.
THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9344926/Hawaii-Dems-and-Repubs-Say-Constitutionally-Eligible
Here is the same portion from the Certification received by SC.
THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/foia-request-response-from-va-document-from-va-sos-signed-by-nancy-pelosi-stating-that-pelosi-certified-obamas-qualifications/dnc-certification_of_nomination-082908-2/
And guess what? Hawaii Revised Statutes §11-113 requires that the political party of a candidate must provide a statement that the candidate is legally qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the United States Constitution. Maybe that’s because given HI law in effect when BO was born that allowed HI registration of foreign births, they of all people know how easily in America, a non-NBC can grow up to be President.
Interestingly enough, if Obamer is found out and prosecuted, do you think he may come full circle to lil ms Ann Dunham stated birthplace, Levenworth…what a fitting end to this story…
feelinghodwinked
I had heard last night on one of the news shows that Howard Dean was not asked to be the chairman. Basically, they shut him out of continuing. I have no idea what the truth is but it was reported that they didn’t want him any longer and that this was a snub.
Bob and everyone, the Code of Federal Regulations (”CFR”) catalogs those regulations written by federal agencies that spell out how the agency will carry out the mandate of the U.S. Code. Thus, if the U.S. Code contains no requirement that a particular agency is entrusted with vetting the candidate for POTUS for Constitutional eligibility then, no corresponding regulation will exist. No provision of any federal (or state) law requires any state actor to confirm the man who would be POTUS is Constitutionally eligible for the job.
ILBlue, No Child Left Behind mandated federal standards of performance for public schools, making continued federal funding for education to the states contingent on meeting these standards. However, at the same time Congress enacted NCLB, they failed to provide sufficient funding for the states to effectively implement programs that would result in higher test scores that were the hallmark of the program. Get it? These unfunded mandates allow Congress to both appear concerned about public education and, at the same time, pathologize minorities, or teachers’ unions, or the poor, or immigrants (pick one) for failing to reach the benchmarks in the Act (written by legislators who may or may not know anything about public education).
Disclaimer: I teach in the public schools.
American Girl, good for you! Weren’t you so very happy to see this in the Complaint? You should post a comment on the blog! Certainly, if the Senator responds, then let me know.
Lee: I agree. It looks like Howard Dean was let go and it was not his decision.
ILBLUE: Arnie Dunkin, Chicago School Superintendent, was a failure as you said and his reward is to be promoted to head up Education Dept. for Obama. I heard that only 17% of 8th grade students in Chicago can read at an 8th grade level. Just the kind of person this country needs.
Here in Arizona, we have a similar situation. Gov. Janet Napolitano can’t balance our budget and Arizona will be broke by mid-February. She also is an advocate for illegal aliens, even though she is hiding behind the news reports that she wants more help at the border. She has been saying that it is the Federal government’s responsibility. With her promotion to the chief of Homeland Security, I wonder now if she’s going to say it’s the state’s own responsibility. She only signed the E-verify bill when she ran out of other options by vetoing all of the other bills that were presented. During her tenure, Phoenix has become the murder capital of the country due to an excess of illegals, drug dealers, and human smugglers coming across the border. I don’t think the border will be secured until we have terrorists come across it and harm us. We are in deep do-do. Why do we have to wait for a catastrophe?
Thoth, if you are here, please, please, read the military Complaint and leave a message. All comments are in moderation.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
jane wrote:
Here is a copy of Stanley Ann’s SS application, 535-40-8522.
http://www.webofdeception.com/obamamother’sssapplication.html
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jane and everyone: since so many problematic for Obama internet pages are scrubbed daily, whenever you come across one, please print it out OR copy and paste OR do something to save the page so that if it’s scrubbed, you still have a copy of it on your computer to share with others.
That link now leads to “Page not found”.
CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US BASICALLY WHAT IT SAID?
Thanks
jbjd – absolutely I was happy to see him named in the Complaint and yes, I will send any reply recd from him – and please – tell me if there is something specific I need to send him – I know where to find him – and now he has basically lied to me personally, and I’m not OK with that.
Dr Kate – I love that letter to Pelosi!!!!! She’s been on my sh@tlist for a very long time – I don’t know how she sleeps at night – & I think that style of letter would work for any govt official – they all have dirty hands at this point.
Thank you, jbjd. I have revised my letter to reflect that information.
Some quick web-research on the Washington Prayer Journal and some related material.
http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2008/08/washingtons-prayer-journal-fraud.html
http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2004/12/george_washingt.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/monument.asp
Concerning the status of BHO’s Citizenship, I honestly don’t care. As far as I know, and have been able to find out, no concrete proof of the claims that he wasn’t born in Hawaii have panned out…. It’s about time the “Good Ol’ Boys Club” of the Presidency was busted up.
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Ivi7SfV4j_QJ:webofdeception.com/obamamother%27sssapplication.html+http://webofdeception.com/obamamother%E2%80%99sssapplication.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://webofdeception.com/obamamother’sssapplication.html
Here’s the ssapp you might want to save the .jpg
Ilblue: well, let’s hope God helps the Bear (us)!!!!
Carlyle: process, of course. And the greatest example of the disaster of the process is Obama.
**no one verified his eligibility
**campaign donations from foreign sources not caught by FEC
**media purchased for obama
**all systems in the government failed to catch him
**all processes which should have worked did not, and the honesty of our politicians is a core issue.
**the electoral system and processes failed, and they have been for a long time.
Surely if Obama is inaugurated all of this is going beyond Obama, it is to the core of our system which has been inhabited by the most part by decievers, liars, thiefs. We will and we must oust these people.
I hear you, and very soon this expands way beyond Obama. What a disgrace. They all should be removed from office.
tanarg
Someone wrote: We need our government to give us a definition of the term. LOL!!!!
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My statement was not intended to amuse you or the other poster who disagreed with it.
Perhaps I should have said it this way:
Because there is no explicit legal definition of the term, the intent of the founders needs to be stated unambigulusly by the Supreme Court. If there is such a definition promulgated, then it would be immediately clear to all people who read it (a) who is qualified to be president of the United States and (b) who is not so qualified. Then, it would be clear that Obama is not qualified.
My response wasn’t meant disrespectful either–just as what’s happening with the Congress now….I wouldn’t rely on anything from that corner..just saying past behavior considered.
Judy Frank, I agree with you. The Supreme Court must provide the definition.
Apparently there is to be a major development announced on Plains Radio Network:
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/958737
“Tonight Plains Radio Network will release BREAKING news about the President Elect’s Citizenship status.
“Tonight at 6pm to 8pm cst. ( http://www.plainsradio.com ), during Wiley Drake’s show, Ed Hale will provide details about this exciting development.
“Also, during Wiley Drake’s show, will be a fascinating discussion with lawyer Alan Keyes. Alan Keyes is deeply involved in some of the legal challenges to the Usurper’s pending Presidency. Wiley and Alan will discuss these challenges and the exciting developments.
“However …… The guts of this announcement will come during Pastor Charlie’s show tonight, from 8pm to 10pm cst. The Patriot, Pastor Charlie, has helped to secure this document! He will report that definitive proof of the President Elect’s citizenship status will be released to Plains Radio. The expected time of delivery is Wednesday. Tonight, Pastor Charlie will have a guest on the air and the two of them will provide DETAILS >>>>>>>> Yes, Details!
“I have decided to hold back further release of information until after Pastor’s Charlie’s show tonight. While I have seen nothing, I do believe this is substantive information and I will be listening!!!!
“Chalice
“State: Illinois”
Why are most people not using common sense in the “natural born” question concerning Obama? Let’s pretend for a moment. Imagine that Prince William of Great Britain came over to the US for a holiday. While here, he had a fling with a young teenager and she became pregnant and gave birth to a son. Some years later, Prince William, became King of England, and all of Great Britain celebrated the election of his love child to the Presidency of the US. Imagine the alliance formed between father and son and the countries they lead. Sounds like ancient times when leaders married foreign wives to gain the favor of adversarial governments. What country did we have to fight for our Independence? Can we imagine the irony of a situation like this. Can people not understand the foresight our founders had in placing this restriction upon our Presidency? The founders could see the possibilities of the future better than present day folks can see what is right before their eyes.
Janet/takebackAmericaNOW:
The page still exists. The problems is that if you click on the link, instead of the apostrophe, you get a bunch of symbols. Click on the link, and replace the symbols (%E2%80%99) and you’ll get to the page. I have screen shots and saved the .jpg.
http://webofdeception.com/obamamother’sssapplication.html
Pray that God saves America from what the hypnotized among us has done. (I feel like I’m in a real life version of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”) I wish it was all just a bad dream.
I cannot verify this, but someone posted it on AmericasRight.com. I have asked for more information, but am not inclined to get my hopes up, though if true, we should see it this week:
Obama has a team member on the inside quietly encouraging him to do the right thing and step down. Distinguished Intelligence Personnel know his history and would prefer he handle questions as to his eligibility with dignity.
SCOTUS has conferences set up on Jan 16 and Jan 23 concerning his eligibility which sandwich the Jan 20 inauguration if he chooses to ignore the situation.
President Bush will give a nationally televised speech on Thursday telling Americans everything is fine. The rest of the TARP funds are about to be rolled out.
Everyone needs to relax and wait for Obama to do the right thing or let SCOTUS do what has to be done.
Tanarg wrote:
I cannot verify this, but someone posted it on AmericasRight.com. I have asked for more information, but am not inclined to get my hopes up, though if true, we should see it this week:
oh if only this is true! something new to pray & hope for – maybe, just maybe, some sanity has prevailed …. thanks for this slim ray of hope today….
AG
Tanarg, as much as I hope this is true, it is completely difficult to even imagine….MO hires the decorator; her mother is in town; barky’s ego is SO big; he is completely blind to his own problems and psychosis….
Divine intervention is needed when the workings of humans fail to protect the people.
Re: visit with the Supremes. This is quite traditional, but oh my, I wonder if they announce to him that Biden will have to be acting until he provides his documentation???
No press, no staff. Comeon, Supremes, show me you are something else besides a chicken coop.
Recently I stumbled upon this article purely by accident:
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama vs World Leaders
http://www.heyokamagazine.com/heyoka_magazine.25.barrysoetoro.htm
What is quite disturbing is the author’s description of what happened
in Congress on January 8, 2009. I would like to know if his
interpretation of the events he described is correct.