By TexasDarlin

It’s projected that Hillary Clinton will have more popular votes than Barack Obama on June 3rd. Some news organizations have already declared her the popular vote leader.
Yet many party officials seem anxious to coronate Barack Obama prior to the Democratic convention. They must have short memories, and have forgotten the sense of outrage and injustice we (the Democrats) experienced when Al Gore was robbed of his election mandate 8 years ago.
“Hillary Democrats” will feel aggrieved if the Superdelegates over-turn their votes. It’s naive to assume that they’ll jump on the Unity Express to join forces against Republican enemies in November. Millions of Democrats (and some others too) — the majority of whom belong to that key demographic called women — are already steaming mad at how Clinton is being treated by her colleagues, aided by a misogynist mass media.
As a reminder, Hillary Clinton has dedicated decades of her life to fighting for progressive causes and Democratic candidates. She is a 2-term Senator from the 3rd largest state in the union, and a major voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee. At the end of this primary process, she will have inspired nearly 20 million people to get out and vote for her. Millions of them are just like me — actively campaigning and donating for the first time in our lives.
Now, this takes nothing away from Senator Obama, as he has also inspired millions of people. But he’s getting the respect due from Democratic peers while Hillary Clinton — champion of children and sick people and veterans and women — is being treated like a nuisance. Some have even attacked her character and dignity, such as Obama surrogate Ted Kennedy who recently said that Clinton is not “in tune with…the nobler aspirations of the American people.”
In the absence of a rational explanation for this abuse, millions of women (and men too) are fuming because, frankly, it reeks of good ole fashioned back-slapping sexism. I’m not alone in wondering out loud whether a man in Clinton’s position — that is, a serious contender for the presidential nomination who has won swing states (most recently by 41%) and built a formidable coalition needed to win the White House — would be taunted, ridiculed, and treated like an outcast.
As a woman who has been on the receiving end of double standards, and one who happens to believe that Hillary Clinton will be the best President of my lifetime, I want to urge Senator Clinton to take her campaign all the way to the convention floor. By earning more than half the votes cast, she has every right to make her case directly to party representatives in the proper venue, and even a responsibility to the voters.
See, this is the way it is for Clinton supporters. If you throw Hillary under the bus, we go with her. And although our leader would be gracious in asking us to disregard the injustice, millions of “Hillary Democrats” will be unable to do so. ”Backlash” is a real social and psychological phenomenon. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Note: please do not attack the messenger.


38 responses so far ↓
TrueBlue // May 16, 2008 at 2:32 am
Tex,
You have some great points. I’m sticking with Hillary, hopefully for the next 8 years with her as president.
Ray // May 16, 2008 at 2:47 am
TexasDarlin,
I just to say to you that it is very understandable why you are supporting Hillary Clinton. You remind me of her. You are a fighter, you are smart (brilliant!), you inspire everyone around you that you have contact with. You certainly inspire me! There have been times you have drawn a tear from my eyes because I am so proud to be on the same team with people like you and Hillary. You have no idea how much you are appreciated and , yes, LOVED! You are one of the reasons I am fighting so hard and doing all I can. My family thinks I am nuts and some of my friends think I am nuts, but you and Taylor andf Hillary and the incredible people fighting for Hillary overwhelms me and inspires such passion and hope in me. Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
Ray
San Francisco, CA
phil // May 16, 2008 at 3:20 am
Hi, Texas Darlin.
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at your diary (and others like it). I was not originally a Barack Obama supporter. I was mainly leaning towards Edwards, but he just didn’t get the traction. Anyway, as you should know, there are several flaws in your reasoning. first FL & MI. I’m ashamed of the way that Clinton has handled this. Her campaign supported and voted for the disciplinary action taken because those states defied the DNC and moved their elections up. All dems agreed to not campaign in those states. Yet Hillary did go to Florida. She was the only candidate on the ballot in MI. The truth is, she never thought she’d need them. She has turned down plans that give her more delegates in MI, even though they really should be seated equally if they are seated at all.
Next, the popular vote does not count some of the caucus states (unimportant states to Hill) that she got just destroyed in. If we are going to count pop vote, we should figure out how to count the caucus states.
Third, Hillary recent destroyed Obama in WV. One of three states that she won by a margin of over 20 points. Barack has beat her by plus 20 (and much more in some states. Again, must be the unimportant ones) in 21 contests. Why don’t you ask why Hillary has a problem in well educated white states like Oregon, where she will get hammered on Tuesday.
Then there is the tone of her campaign, and the fact that she constantly has changed her message to suit whatever voter group she needs to please next; even using race against Obama.
Lastly, the rules are the rules. Popular vote (if it could be acurately counted is not how the nominee is picked. It’s picked by delegates (super and otherwise). Remember when Hillary was saying she’d just have to win over the supers? Now that she isn’t winning the supers it’s about the popular vote. Another day, another rationale from the Clinton campaign.
Why, Texas darlin, did the candidate with the best name recognition, fundraising machine, party support, etc… fail to see the youngster from Illinois coming up in her rear view mirror?
This thing is over. If you really want a GOP administration keep pushing for Hillary.
Flora Steele // May 16, 2008 at 5:02 am
“Stop or We’ll Defect!”
Some of us Hillary supporters believe that Obama has no chance against McCain. Some of his supporters think Obama does have a chance, counting on our support in November — so we need to show them how many votes they will be losing from our demographic, if they nominate Obama rather than Hillary.
We’re being called ‘Revenge Bitches’ among other things, but we need — while there is still time — to dissuade the Democratic Party from nominating Obama and following him off the cliff.
If pledging now to support McCain over Obama is what it take to stop that rush over the cliff, then I think it’s justified — since Obama has no chance in November anyway, with us or without us.
Some people are already switching and donating to McCain, which is pre-mature. We need to spend our resources for Hillary till August, and certainly for Hillary if she gets the nomination! I don’t want to donate to McCain now only to find Hillary running against him after all.
As one way to show that we’re serious before it’s too late, I suggest a “congingency donation” fund — a fund to collect donations now that will go to Hillary if she gets the nomination — and to McCain only if Obama gets the nomination.
Granted this would tie up the money for a while — but it’s better than donating to McCain now, as some people are doing.
Politico says one group of defectors will be on O’Reilly May 15. I haven’t been able to find the group’s website.
An Ohio-based group of Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters say they’ll work actively against Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee, arguing that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media.
Led by Boomer-aged women, the group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, is holding a press conference in Columbus at noon to release this statement.
Organizers Cynthia Ruccia, 55, and Jamie Dixey, 57, both from the Columbus area, say they’re coordinating women, men, minorities, union members and others in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan – all important swing states next November [....]
TomD // May 16, 2008 at 2:56 pm
“As one way to show that we’re serious before it’s too late, I suggest a “congingency donation” fund — a fund to collect donations now that will go to Hillary if she gets the nomination — and to McCain only if Obama gets the nomination.”
So you allegiance is to Hillary or the issues she stands for? I ask because last time I checked, she and John McCain had NOTHING of consequence in common: the war, reproductive rights, economic policy, social policy, etc. NOTHING.
So while I understand your disappointment in losing the nomination, your threat to vote for McCain is either a) empty or b) a reflection of your lack of principles.
Quite frankly, Hillary would be disappointed in you if you voted for McCain…and you know that.
Gary // May 16, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Well, this is one Hillary supporter who will not vote for Obama. Hillary maybe disappointed in us for a while, but the country would be very disappointed in the end if Obama is president. Obama brings nothing to the table except empty platitudes, flowery speeches, and using the word “change” ad-nauseum. We need a president who has the experience to lead us forward in a troubled world. That certainly is not Barack Obama.
Kat // May 16, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Hillary is amazing in her strength and positive outlook and an inspiration. She must be the next President of the United States. Phil, you should have either stayed in bed, dreaming, or go back to doing something more productive than blogging half truths here.
BobbyG // May 16, 2008 at 3:28 pm
“It’s projected that Hillary Clinton will have more popular votes than Barack Obama on June 3rd.”
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Only by changing the rules.
georgia // May 16, 2008 at 3:37 pm
americans who stand behind hillary run to your computers and go to care2petition .com and type in pledge not to vote for obama in the general election put out by savage politics. we have almost 2800 votes .this will tell the dnc that we will not stand up for anyone but clinton.
if hillary don’t win i vote mccain. please donate to hillary as she in racking up debt to be our president .i give 10.00 a week because i get ss
and that is not much. thank you
TomD // May 16, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Gary:
Do you support overturning of Roe v. Wade?
Do you want another 100 years in Iraq?
Do you want a war in Iran?
If you do, please vote McCain.
georgia // May 16, 2008 at 3:48 pm
americans who stand behind hillary should also prerare to switch to independent voter so we can vote against obama.call 202-225-4965 and tell nancy pelusi what you think .then call 202-863-8000 and leave amessage for howard dean an d ted kennedy .you can also call john kerry the loser and leave a messageask for his number when you cal dnc,also if there is anything i can do here in fremont ohio email me at georgia1rn2005@yahoo.com. we need protest walk so the tv will pick it up.
thanks
Gob Bluth // May 16, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Specifically what news organizations have already declared her the popular vote leader? A statement of that sort ought to be cited to be taken seriously.
Regardless of the agreement into which Senator Clinton entered - voluntarily - regarding Florida and Michigan, how do you explain away her very unambiguous statement to reporters while campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire that Michigan and Florida don’t count?
And Phil is right - the winner is the candidate with the most delegates - super and otherwise. Senator Clinton should be precluded from moving the goal posts as she has attempted to do time and time again.
Frankly, she’s starting to look pathetic.
JohnN // May 16, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I’m jumping in here as a male, somewhat neutral observer (neither strong Obama or Clinton, although would support either). I understand the millions of women who are upset, frustrated, and angry at what Sen. Clinton has experienced during this primary. I’ve cringed at some of the sexist comments made on the cable news shows and various blogs across the Internet. However, I don’t believe that her position now is a direct result of rampant sexism in the party or the media. Hillary was way out front from the day she announced and had overwhelming support in the party. I think most of the backlash in the party and among voters is because she’s a Clinton not because she’s a woman. I think that backlash is often expressed in sexist terms, but that in the majority of cases sexism isn’t the motivating factor. While Bill Clinton had a relatively successful presidency he wasn’t seen as a good leader for the Party. Hillary would almost certainly be a better President than her husband and definitely a better Democratic Party leader, but she comes with baggage. A lot of her opponents make the claim that she wouldn’t be where she is if she wasn’t the wife of a former President. I take the opposite view, Hillary can and has stood on her own, and I think she is a viable presidential candidate despite her husband. The baggage her husband brings is more of a burden than she or most of her supporters would like to admit. Now that argument, although giving Hillary credit for her own success, is still somewhat sexist because she’s being punished for what a man in her life did. It’s a tough line to walk, but if she is using her time as First Lady as part of her qualifications than it would seem to be fair game as an argument against her as well.
Hillary would be an excellent President and I always hoped/assumed she’d be the one to break that glass ceiling. She can still fight it out, but the chances are slim at this point. I think she should fight on and make a positive argument for her case. However, I firmly believe that if the situation was reversed the party would have pushed Obama out of the race in early March, April at the latest. In fact, if Obama had lost 12 straight contests to Hillary this would have probably been over in Feb. I think Hillary, while unfairly pressured by some, was not aggressively pushed out because of her stature in the party and the strength of her support, which is pretty inspiring. While I understand the symbolism, I didn’t find the calls for her to leave as sexist anymore than I would have considered calls for Obama to leave as racist had the situation been reversed.
This nomination fight is a competition and someone has to lose. According to the Democratic Party rules for selecting a nominee the “will of the people” is expressed by delegate counts, not popular vote. The MI and FL primaries are troublesome, but Hillary had such overwhelming brand name recognition it is hard to imagine Obama having a fair chance without the opportunity to actively campaign in those two states. All parties involved have contributed to the mess and a fair resolution seems difficult, but seating the full delegations seems patently unfair and inappropriate. And Hillary is ahead in the popular vote only if you allow that Obama got zero votes in MI. I’d say it’s safe to assume that a big chunk of that ‘uncommitted’ vote would have voted for Obama if given the chance.
In the end, if Hillary is unsuccessful at securing the nomination does it really help the millions of people (women and men) who believe in her and what she stands for to actively support or vote for the man who has the exact opposite viewpoint? How does this support Hillary or you? How does voting for McCain advance the causes Hillary and her supporters work so hard for. I understand the anger at Obama for challenging and by some measures beating her, but it’s hard to lay this off on sexism alone. I firmly believe that if Obama wasn’t in the race, Hillary would have clinched this on Feb 5th or soon after.
This has been a political competition and both sides have done and said things that appear, and often are, unfair. Supporters for both Hillary and Obama have said things about the opposing candidate that are reprehensible and both sides have behaved poorly. I’ve read a lot of pro-Obama blogs and comments and some of the things said are totally disrespectful. I’ve read a lot of pro-Hillary blogs and comments and the attacks from Hillary supporters on Obama are just as disrespectful and in both cases many are simply untrue. But in the end both sides need to focus on the candidates and what they stand for and how they have really conducted themselves. The candidates should not be blamed for the poor behavior of their most passionate supporters.
Voting against your own interests, and I can only assume the millions who support Hillary because of what she stood, just doesn’t make any sense. It seems more like an effort to punish Obama than to, at the very least, vote for the lesser of two evils. I know some may think Obama would be worse than McCain, which is their right. But I see a lot of Hillary supporters saying they won’t support Obama primarily because he beat out Hillary for the nomination; and I see a lot of Obama supporters saying they won’t support Hillary if she gets the nomination. Since Hillary and Obama basically split the popular vote 50-50 neither side can win in November without both sets of supporters. Hillary’s supporters have a very real and credible threat to walk if the Party doesn’t give her the nomination. Obama couldn’t possibly win if Hillary’s supporters voted for McCain. But Hillary can’t win without Obama’s supporters, whether they stay home or vote for McCain. It’s a standoff. It’s as if both groups held guns to their own heads and said if you don’t pick me I’ll shoot myself in the head. Who does that help?
texasdarlin // May 16, 2008 at 4:49 pm
JohnN, I appreciate your long and thoughtful comment, but what I’m not sure you fully appreciate is that millions of Hillary Democrats do not trust Barack Obama to be president on many levels, and their views about this now override any sense of party loyalty.
In my opinion, this historic race will alter the Democratic party in a permanent way. And maybe it’s necessary and inevitable in a democracy that once in a while this would occur and change the course of political history. I am personally not afraid of that.
BobbyG // May 16, 2008 at 4:50 pm
JohnN - Good post.
Consider the recent thoughts of Matt Taibbi:
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“…One of the things that’s really, really interesting, is how both groups sort of violently disbelieve in the humanity of anybody who is outside the group.
You call it the “Crossfire” paradigm.
Right, yeah, exactly. Basically, if you’re not a believer in the Truth Movement, you’re someone that’s part of a conspiracy, an enemy, whose life really isn’t worth a whole lot. The religious right and the 9/11 Truthers are the same in that respect. You should see the vitriol, the letters that I get, for even mentioning anything outside the belief system of the 9/11 Truthers. And this is something I’m noticing again in the Obama-Hillary split now. Members of each group have rooting interests and belief systems and they are completely unwilling to concede anything to the other group and they refuse to debate anything in a rational, calm way. It’s all about trying to destroy the other side. The Truthers have a religious belief in their conspiracy theories, in the same way that the other side has religious beliefs in their religion. I understand what you’re saying, and it’s slightly unfair to compare them, but there’s a lot that’s the same….
At the end of the book, which you wrote well before the current juncture in the presidential campaign cycle, you sound a rather optimistic note, describing the candidacies of Ron Paul, John Edwards and even Barack Obama as harbingers of a “path back to reality.” Are you still as optimistic?
No. Not at all. When the Obama campaign really started to pick up steam, I thought “this is really going to hurt the book” because it contradicts the book’s premise. Obama’s campaign was addressing a lot of the things I’m talking about. It was trying to tone down the kind of tribal instinct that we have in our politics and trying to find a certain common speech where we all try to rationally talk about things and where we all consider everybody, even the people on the other side, just as much of a person or as a citizen as we are. And I think there was a real feel-good vibe about that campaign back in November and December. But now the Hillary-Obama fight has turned into exactly the kind of red-blue, tribal warfare that we’ve been talking about with Republicans and Democrats and the religious right and the Truth movement. It’s the same thing all over again. If you listen to both sides of the campaign argue, they argue with the same sort of religious, hardheaded passion that I’m talking about in this book. And to me that’s very depressing. Especially because I have to cover this thing and I’m in the middle of it all the time. And also because I’ve been friendly to Obama in my pieces and now I’m getting the protests of the Hillary people writing to me all the time. It’s the exact same thing I went through with the Truthers…”
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http://www.salon.com/books/int/2008/05/16/taibbi/print.html
Kat // May 16, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Why is this blog registering such strange times as login time for comments?
bevvyjean // May 16, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Really Excellent article. Thanks.
kyle // May 16, 2008 at 6:49 pm
“Some news organizations have already declared her the popular vote leader.”
I agree with Gob Bluth: A statement like that must be cited. Unless, of course, it can’t be cited because the author made it up.
How exactly do you arrive at her being the popular-vote leader? Is it by including the tallies from Florida and Michigan, but (curiously) excluding the numerous caucus states won handily by Obama who don’t reveal their actual vote totals? That sure doesn’t seem like sticking to the count-every-vote principle.
Oh, and also, the above commenters are correct to point out that the nomination is specifically not arrived at by popular vote. Delegates select the nominee. This is for a good reason. If not for that, no candidate would ever bother going to a small state. Anyone bragging about Hillary’s victory in West Virginia must logically insist upon delegates as the only acceptable metric by which to judge who is leading this race.
Please, pretty please put up some links to “news organizations” that “have declared her the popular vote leader.” With sugar on top.
JohnN // May 16, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Texasdarlin,
“millions of Hillary Democrats do not trust Barack Obama to be president on many levels, and their views about this now override any sense of party loyalty.”
I do appreciate it. I just don’t agree with it. I think it’s a position that lacks objectivity.
I hope you’ll reconsider in the fall. If you can’t enthusiastically support Obama maybe you can enthusiastically oppose McCain. Politics is messy and this time we all got dirty.
I’ll keep a good thought for Hillary. She’s going to come out fine either way.
texasdarlin // May 16, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Yes, ABC News and RCP has Hillary in the lead when counting Florida and Michigan, whose votes were certified. The DNC decision stripped the delegates but did not strip the popular vote. After all, how can you ignore 2.3 million people?
kyle // May 16, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Those totals don’t include (dare I say they “disenfranchise”
voters in the four caucus states. How can you argue including MI/FL while excluding others?
Cherry-picking statistics like that doesn’t help your case. It just makes you look intellectually dishonest.
texasdarlin // May 16, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Kyle, please see my other post called Will of the People, where I analyze popular vote totals including caucus states.
kyle // May 16, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Yes, I read that one too. I also read “Blue Ridge Blues,” emphasizing the importance of West Virginia. As I said above, anyone who would argue for the value of a West Virginia primary victory must logically accept that delegates won is the only appropriate metric for determining who is winning the overall race.
Do you agree?
texasdarlin // May 16, 2008 at 9:53 pm
No, Kyle, I don’t really follow your logic. Hillary won by nearly 150,000 votes in WV. Those are actual people who showed up at the polls to vote for her, even after Obama did his best to convince people that the race was over. I love that about Democracy, the will of the people will be heard no matter what. I’m sorry I can’t hang around here to chat but I have other work to do. Eventually I’ll get back to read more comments. Have a great day.
BobbyG // May 17, 2008 at 12:02 am
“Some news organizations have already declared her the popular vote leader.”
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Links?
Didn’t think so.
texasdarlin // May 17, 2008 at 3:36 am
BobbyG, read upthread comments for links.
To // May 17, 2008 at 5:12 am
I’m so saddened by posts that threaten to vote against Obama should he be the nominee.
I understand the frustration, heartache and pain that people feel when their chosen candidate is not the winner… but really… to vote for someone who has views in total opposition?
More than one observer has noted that Clinton and Obama share very similar policy views - which is what made it such a tough race.
I can’t think of any other word for it than… ‘Bitter?’
Tell me your not all serious… are you truly all going to vote for McCain, out of spite, regardless of what it’ll do to the country?
wry // May 17, 2008 at 6:07 am
Yes, I truly will vote for John McCain. Although I am a democrat, I am also a woman and an American.
I love this country.
And as a feminist, a proud feminist, I will not vote for a man who stood quietly while Clinton endured sexist misogynistic attacks.
What Black man would be expected to vote for a racist just because the racist was a democrat? Why should I, a woman, vote against my own dignity for the “good of the party”.
And you can’t scare me with Roe v Wade either, so don’t try that .
It’s not spite, it’s dissent, which is my right and my obligation as an American.
BobbyG // May 17, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Confirms my point. Only by changing the rules can she claim the lead. Moreover, you win via “delegates” not popular votes per se, so this is Red Herring 101. You know that (neither you nor I made those rules, but they are the rules nonetheless).
And, more broadly, only by backroom dirty stuff will she get the nomination at this point.
miriam // May 17, 2008 at 6:13 pm
This may be a defining moment for women in America. Through the mysogynism directed at Hillary Clinton, we have been all been maligned. And now we are expected to just dutifully line up, as usual, behind the male candidate? Even when we strongly suspect the primary election has been rigged–as in the disenfranchisement of millions of Michigan and Florida voters because the majority of them voted for Hillary? (Why wasn’t South Carolina treated the same when it voted early?) I don’t think many of us are ready to submit ONCE AGAIN to this kind of treatment from the Democratic leaders. Insult and ignore us at your own peril. It’s now or never, as the sexism this time is absolutely clear. And it’s not only votes. Women have traditionally been the work horses in terms of GOTV activities. I say let the men go it alone this time.
NomNomNom // May 17, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Texas Darlin I am with you. It will be a subhell freezing day that I vote for Obama. You dip*s that think I’ll lay down and take one for the Party can piss off. If Clinton isn’t on the ticket or if Obama is in any capacity or if the delegates from Mi and Fl are not seated in accordance with the vote, I won’t vote for any down ticket Dems either. You’ve made you stinking bed, so lie in it together, you [!.s] I won’t.
georgia // May 18, 2008 at 3:24 am
according to tv obama take the nomination only to lose the race in nov. for all of you i want you to understand something .this for me is not about race i have extended african american
family that i love dearly. someday i hope they will run for pous. one thing i will tell them .stay away from racists,terrorists,and crooks.if you want to lead this country then be a leader not a follower of these types of people.you are know by the company you keep .i love this country this is not a popularity contest although that’s exactly how people are voting. if i have to vote mccain to feel safe at night iwill .i do not trust obama and futher more he is lacking in experience. he is already showing strain from the campaign . he flares out about bush’s and mccains comments when his name is not mentioned. his wife is also baggage and i find hateful.
i want peace not war with our pous.his wife is already telling him hillary can’t be his vp because of her baggage. thats the pot calling the kettle black.this candidate has done nothing to unite people and bringing john edwards in to try and discount the wv voters was just dirty .this whole campaign has been dirty .no thanks i will pass on obama,wright, ayers,michelle,rezco .too much baggage too soon.
regards georgia
AnninCA // May 18, 2008 at 10:57 pm
The way Hillary is being treated has stirred up her supporters in a way that is unprecedented, Texas D. You are so right! Radio host, Colbert, was shocked when he began to talk about this and finds himself fielding calls from women all over the world. The man can’t keep up with the flood of e-mails. Operation Turndown is in full gear and growing daily.
And what they say is that they are, indeed, under the bus right with her.
After months of being told that they should “take their vote and leave the party,” that’s exactly what many are going to do.
Women Count Too organization is calling for a boycott of MSN for the prevalent sexism. But more than media boycotts, it’s time to vote OUT the sexists and all those who stood by and silently approved the trashing of a fellow Democrat.
The biggest issue for Obama finance people who met with Hillary finance people? They say people are mad because Hillary continues to campaign. *blink* Say what? So you are so right that she’s being treated as a nuisance.
So Obama may proclaim he has won. I hope he does on the night he gets shellacked in KY. That’s going to give everyone a lot to laugh about in the future.
And Obama supporters will be wondering what happened as all of us who were called names and jeered at for the past year do, indeed, put on our heels and leave the great Democratic unity bus.
One thing I’d like to warn those smug about this is that once you lose a voter, it’s darned hard to win them back. You are going to find it very hard to work those precincts without the women whom are angry enough to even go on TV with Bill O’Reilly and hold up a poster giving an e-mail address for Women Count, Too.
That’s how mad we are. And it’s not going to go away. This isn’t part of a grief process.
This is much more of a rejection of the Democratic Party and its elite boy brigade tactics.
We won’t stand for it.
NomNomNom // May 19, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Texas Darlin and All Women (and likeminded men), come on over to SavagePolitics for a visit. We’re promoting a Party is Over week from Jun1 thru 8 to change our registration from dem to Independent (or other) and send the paperwork to the DNC.
Don’t forget if you choose to write in Hillary’s name that your state may automatically count this as a vote for Obama as the authorized candidate of your party on the ballot! Some states really do this! So check your state rules before writing in her name. She won’t be on the ballot in a state with electronic voting. The information can be found n your state’s website or you can call your state’s voter registration. Spread the word!
Wry, totally agreed on Roe v Wade; in the first place I’m one of those “old white women” at 42 and having my tubes tied: needing an abortion isn’t my freakin problem anymore. More: I’m not giving up my right to VOTE. I’m not near stupid enough to fall for this Roe v Wade crap. Why should I believe that a party that thinks I don’t have a right to choose my own candidate will always care to select for me a candidate who supports abortion?
Gordon H Webb // May 27, 2008 at 6:35 am
I’ll be voting McCain in the fall if Obama is our nominee. I can’t vote for someone that I don’t respect. Plain and simple. This is why Democrats lose elections. The party elite haven’t figured out that people don’t always just fall in line behind a candidate just because they have a (D) in front of they name. It’s also about character and experience. Obama has neither.
Sharonevolving // May 27, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Go TexasDarlin’! I am in California, so I have less chance than the Texans to effect things (our state usually goes Dem no matter what). But I am out blogging, stirring that pot, and hoping you Texans can raise enough hell to get that darned DNC to listen! Keep up the good work - I lived in DFW ‘95-’00 and love that state.
jmkorbel // May 27, 2008 at 11:01 pm
As a frustrated Hillary volunteer, I just spent a day doing a Super Delegate analysis of support, state by state. For any who wonder what is really happening, go see this analysis at NoQuarter, under post “Letter to SuperDelegates” in the comment section.
In sum, it will show you a consistent, diabolical pattern of SD votes for obama, against the Will of the People of every state, or vastly disproportionate to the primary outcome of the state. It also shows, painfully, that SD support for Hillary has been withheld, or totally circumvented, even in states where she had big wins!
So,the cat’s out of the bag - SUPERDELEGATES ARE STEALING THE ELECTION! (because, by circumventing the voting results of the people, they are depriving the Nomination to the Candidate most popular and most qualified to win the election.
Therefore, sober fact is STEAL THE NOMINATION = Steal the ELECTION and don’t even wait until November to do it.
CAUTION, please, to some as above, who said they will “still vote for down-ticket Dems”. BE AWARE, those down-ticket Dems are also Super Delegates - and they are the ones stealing the election from Hillary.
In many cases, these down ticket candidates have been generously bribed with the bottomless funds of Obama’s special interest financing (which includes millions from both major corporations - in bundled money form and millions more from Muslims (yes, that’s true - from Rezko & Auchi’s money chain in the Mid East, to Farrakan’s Nation of Islam, to the Hezbollah front Qwazini in Michigan, to many more.
Those Congressional candidates who are not being bought may be under duress of threats, just as La Rouche site reported was the case of J Edwards, who was told that if he didn’t come out RIGHT NOW for Obama, he’d be permanently exiled from the party.
If Obama is given this crooked coronation, I personally intend to campaign AGAINST all down-ticket Democrats, who gave Obama their SD endorsement.
So please, true Dem’s like I’ve always been too, DON’T go give your votes to Super Delegate candidates for Congress (or local office) who are RESPONSIBLE directly for this fiasco and disaster.
You can email protests to Superdels at:
http://www.lobbydelegates.com
You can look up what Superdels have endorsed obama at
demconwatch
You can also see there if they are Congressmen, DNC members or other.
AnninCA // May 29, 2008 at 2:44 am
Hillary……or no Democrat this year for us! I couldn’t vote for Obama. His lack of experience, his poor judgment over foreign policy, and his lying is far too obvious. Voting for him would be like believing Bush that there are mass weapons of destruction.
I am responsible.
No Obama.
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